this is getting so distorted you arent making sense any more, your premise has been reduced to betting ffs!
Ok, lets work trough this slowly, we are just trying to drill down core concepts, things we can agree on and figure out where we differ fundamentally. What part is confusing you?
Substituting betting the odds for deductive logic is not drilling down core concepts. Pretending that I am the one that is confused to hide your non sequitur hypotheses wont help you. instead of getting closer to demonstrating what you are trying to say you are drifting further from your target with every post.
Well, if you don't see where this is going, that is ok. We can address that after we develop a few foundations and find things that we can agree on. However, the question is answerable regardless of it's applicability is it not? What would your answer to the question be?
IF that is addressed to me, I would need to know the question before answering and do not even know what to agree on.
Well.. no, it wasn't addressed to you. You are welcome to join the conversation, but it wasn't addressed to you...
Everyone can see that I predicted where this is going long before you got into the bait and switch masturbatory facade you are pressuring me to respond to. Maybe if you drop all the bullshit and bring above board within logic and reason I'd be more interested, but this is getting pretty old. Since he quoted me it should be clear to you that he was addressing me, however you are free to join as he said.
Well, to be fair, we could be much much further in this conversation if you had just answered the question. I don't understand why you are so resistant to answering them. They aren't complex questions, and you are free to rebut the conclusions drawn therefrom, but there is nothing dangerous about answering straightforward questions.
because we disagree on your format, straightforward, easy, etc have nothing to do with logic, reason, and proving the point. After all those remarks you made about me not understand logic and reason and here I am taking you to school on it. this cant prove anything BS stunt you pulled is ludicrous out of the box, and then state it in a manner that broad strokes the whole argument thinking I would not recognize what you were doing so you could pull the bait and switch to push your religion views to substitute for logic. Wont work. Feel free to start over using a reasonable premise if you like.
Lol, I'm not trying to pull any stunts, I'm just exploring the logical ramifications and extensions of the positions you are claiming. But, let's try this: How about you propose something that you think we both would agree on from which you can build your position.
Or, if you prefer, you can try to do the same thing I am: take a position I hold and demonstrate a paradox, or difficult to defend position that would logically follow if they were true.
should you have an interest in something dealing with logic and reason to debate topics at hand instead of nothing more than useless thought masturbation you have been trying to bait me into then we can talk.
Lol, ok I think I did way more than my due diligence in being fair and ensuring that you didn't have anything of value to add, I guess I can unload on you now. So, first of all, I'm now thinking you may just be a troll. You post the same thing over and over again without ever really defending it. You argue only by repeating dumb and illogical nonsense or copy and pasting dictionary pages. I don't think I have seen you once in your multiple posts put forward a rational, or logical or original thought. So, in that case, I suppose you won. Some of us engage, although I wouldn't if I didn't get anything out of it myself, but I did sort of take you seriously from time to time. On the other hand, you may just be dumb. So just in case, I'll proceed with a recreation of a discussion with you. you: There isn't undeniable proof that a god doesn't exist so therefore god almost certainly exists. other: No, there is no evidence of a god or any other extraordinary claim, so why believe it? you: Here's a dictionary page with a definition of something that doesn't really apply. Here are some words and concepts that I don't fully understand because without understanding them, they sort of sound like they make an argument for my point, and here are some other things that I don't understand in hopes that you don't understand them either, so I will sound smart, and then later I will pretend to be smarter than you. other: ok, let's say you are right... in that case should we treat the study unicorns and fire breathing flying dragons exactly like we treat the study of polar bears, since we don't have proof that those things don't exist which in your view is the same as having overwhelming evidence that something does exist? you: (probably not explicitly understanding this in your brain, but coming to this conclusion nonetheless). (thinking) "hmmm, if I say yes, that is clearly a stupid and absurd viewpoint to hold, but it IS actually 100% consistent with the arguments I have made, and the viewpoint that I DO hold, so I can't say no. I'll have to dodge the question completely" (typing) "Lackers!... something something... (inapplicable dictionary page)... no YOU don't understand logic... (blatant argument from fallacy)... something something... and here YOU are claiming unicorns are real! hah! how can I take you seriously? I'm very very busy, I need to spend hours and hours recreating the same thread over and over again, but never actually defending my ideas. me: (doing everything I can to ignore the nonsense, and try to get you to defend your viewpoint) Ok.... but surely you can take a position on the very simple question I asked right? Its a simple choice, yes or no? Which is it? you: We aren't talking about unicorns, what do unicorns have to do with anything? YOU brought up unicorns I didn't, you need to defend why you think unicorns are real before I can possibly answer a simple yes or no question. You are trying to trick me with your complicated mind games!! I won't play! me: I'm really not. If believing in something because there is evidence for it is the same as believing in something because there isn't proof against it, then we should consider unicorns to be as real as polar bears right? you: Hah! look at this guy! He thinks unicorns are real.... etc....
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You are confused i am not a neoatheist in denial PF needs to pay for server and software upgrade costs. Please help! Dismiss Notice Search Results for Query: Search Again Page 1 of 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 → 15 Next > William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Yesterday at 12:33 AM in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The Religion of Atheism I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? An interesting point because, you raise the I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? I lack belief. I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 20, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Defining 'Religion' I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? Almost like atheists lack belief isn't it? I'm an atheist and I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Jul 16, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 15, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The Religion of Atheism I am an atheist, I lack belief, I am not religious. QED Post by: William Rea, Jul 15, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Jul 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Jul 11, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion? ...still waiting for you to answer the outstanding questions from all the threads you ran away from about 4 months ago. I lack belief, I am an... Post by: William Rea, Jul 9, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Dear Atheist: I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Mar 24, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I meet the definition exactly. I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 14, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 13, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 13, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Feb 13, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> Indeed, I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>> I lack belief, I am an atheist. Post by: William Rea, Feb 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Religion and Morality I agree that it is fascinating. It's why I enjoyed engaging with Frank Apisa so much in the past because this alt-Agnostic thing was new to me. As... Post by: William Rea, Feb 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Religion and Morality I am an atheist, I lack belief. Post by: William Rea, Feb 11, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy William Rea Post Religion and Morality I saw the ''truth' part as a positive in the assertion but, I agree with you that it isn't a differentiator. Post by: William Rea, Feb 11, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy Showing results 1 to 25 of 363 Next > Search Again Page 1 of 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 → 15 Next > Search Again Page 1 of 11 Next > rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...continues to not be a religion, by definition. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. It continues to mean a lack of belief in a god or... Post by: rahl, Thursday at 8:03 AM in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...continues to not be a religion, by definition. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. It continues to mean a lack of belief in a god... Post by: rahl, Wednesday at 12:30 PM in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? No. I lack belief in a god or gods. that isn't a belief, or a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Tuesday at 12:24 PM in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? according to koko, yes. He also thinks that not playing baseball is a sport. Post by: rahl, Monday at 10:40 AM in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? ...Atheism remains, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Atheism means, the lack of belief in a god or gods. Post by: rahl, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Logical Examination of Atheist/Atheism, (atheology) A Logical Hipocrisy? ...Atheism remains, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Atheism means, the lack of belief in a god or gods. Post by: rahl, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 22, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...of course remains, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Doesn't matter how many different threads you... Post by: rahl, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism atheism means lack of belief in a god or gods. Atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 14, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism atheism means lack of belief in a god or gods. Atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 14, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism it's ****ing hilarious watching you quote the definition of atheism, showing it not to be a religion, and then stomping your feet claiming it's a... Post by: rahl, Jul 13, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...Atheism remains, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Atheism continues to mean, lack of belief in a... Post by: rahl, Jul 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...god or gods, and is by definition not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. It's literally right there in the very... Post by: rahl, Jul 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism ...or gods. that is, by definition, not a religion, just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. but you know everything you just posted is not... Post by: rahl, Jul 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism thank you for showing once again it is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jul 12, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Defining 'Religion' No. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. It isn't a religion, just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Post by: rahl, Jun 29, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism good. thank you for admitting atheism is by definition, not a religion. It continues to mean lack of belief in a god or gods. the mental... Post by: rahl, Jun 28, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post The Religion of Atheism nope. Atheism, by definition, is not a religion, just like not playing baseball isn't a sport. Atheism means the lack of belief in a god or gods. Post by: rahl, Jun 27, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy rahl Post Atheists Unite! atheism is no more a religion, than not playing baseball is a sport. Post by: rahl, Jun 26, 2018 in forum: Religion & Philosophy Showing results 1 to 25 of 267 Next > Search Again Page 1 of 11
FALSE Posts that I posted links and citations in the last 75 posts in this thread http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-62#post-1069416829 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-61#post-1069416539 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-58#post-1069410548 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-58#post-1069414188 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-57#post-1069407255 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-57#post-1069408227 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-57#post-1069408490 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-56#post-1069393656 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-56#post-1069397782 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-56#post-1069403069 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-54#post-1069383546 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-54#post-1069384114 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-53#post-1069382754 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-53#post-1069382947 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-53#post-1069383083 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-53#post-1069383213 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-of-atheism.250560/page-53#post-1069383245 you posted precisely ZERO Thats all you got, a flaming FAIL Thats what happens when you **** up then try to double triple quadruple down on your errors. The solution is not to bleed all over the thread when you are busted but to stop playing games in the first place.
Theists 'lack' belief that God doesn't exist; therefore anyone who is not 100% confirmed atheist that believes God does not exist is a theist. Its a lackers world today!
Lol, I bet somebody could hack your account, and never post anything but things they copied and pasted from my recreation, and nobody would even know that it wasn't you. They could keep it up forever. GASP!!! Did something like that already happen???