The Religion of Atheism

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What was it that you "asked?"
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not your business or in any way relevant.
     
  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    It may not be my business but it is certainly relevant.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it is not, you are simply nosey and obnoxious while trying to dig out of your hole.

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
  5. Mamasaid

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    Correct, for the sake of argument. And it demonstrates that there is no way to decide the truth of any of this magical nonsense. For instance, that is why you did not argue against it, but instead chose to try to take it off on a tangent.
     
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    Do a google search and stop wasting my time.
     
  7. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You think that the writings about unicorns have the same credibility as the writings about God! :roflol:
     
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    As both are unsubstantiated and exceedingly unlikely stories created by humans about mythical creatures.....Yup.
     
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    I'll tell you what...provide evidence of God and I will provide matching quality Unicorn evidence.
     
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    And that is the crux of a conflicted god. IF god indeed wanted all to be saved, they would be saved. IF god gave us "free will" (or is it really merely an illusion of free will?), then we cannot say nor believe that god wants all to be saved, -because if he does, he is a weak god and humans have "created god in the image and likeness of man".

    If god gave us free will, --and therefore many shall not be saved, then god either WANTS some to not be saved, --or such a god doesn't exist.

    You can't have it both ways. Either (1)god is all-powerful and wants all to be save and so they ARE saved and SHALL BE saved, or (2)god does not want all to be saved, or (3)god is not all-powerful but is conflicted and therefore imperfect. And in spite of any learned theology or any willingness to deceive oneself, there is no actual alternative, unless self-deception is an alternative.
     
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    Very well nut shelled.

    4) God is a manmade construct and thus the flawed reasoning of man is part of it.
     
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    You may get the result you want, but not by the method you wanted. If I multiple 265 x 265 by the method I was taught as a child, I get the same answer as my grandchildren's modern method, but my method would not be accepted in today's world. They would get marks for working the modern way. I would lose marks. Same result. Different way to it.
     
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    Evidence is not subjective. It is how that evidence is viewed by individuals/groups/juries etc. that is subjective.
     
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    Yes. Both creations of the human mind. Gods are more universal but that lends no credibility.
     
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    sure it is, people are wrongly accused and jailed all the time, if evidence was not subjective that would 'never' happen.
    you need to realize that NA's only consider that angle valid when they use it to support their 'faith'.
     
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    A stupid thing to say. Things in the scientific world are not judged by a jury of peers. There ia no comparison, here...just another desperate trick from a guy with not much to offer in the way of compelling argument...
     
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    Which specific God are you referring to? There are thousands of the critters, each with its own unique name and attributes. If you are referring to the biblical God its name is Yahweh and it is the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. It is a disgusting creature.
     
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    ah yes, so you are speechless once again and once again reduced to posting ad homs due to lack of cogent defense! Seems you have been doing a lot of that lately. nothing at all/ nothing? anything?
    clarify something for me, are you talking about a God or the way one group or another interpreted some God?
     
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    Actually, I quite clearly said it was a bad comparison, and I also stated why that is. And you sidestepped those comments in favor of your usual, nightly programming of self-soothing whining. This is exactly what one should expect from a guy who has been so soundly embarrassed and defeated in his own thread. Though, mostly, you embarrassed yourself,.
     
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    I am.
     
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    NA's?
     
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    You haven't even been capable of stating a writing of unicorns! What, children's stories? :roflol:
     
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    Why do you think that "WANT" means that it will happen?
     
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    The Bible.
     
  25. chris155au

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    But just to be clear, you don't believe in God at all, right?
     

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