White House Panics Over Popularity of Socialism

Except those tax cuts and cutting regulations has created jobs and are paying off for ALL workers as well.

 

Socialists want to implement a real healthcare system that every other developed country has. Not surprisingly, this is becoming incredibly popular and we now have majority support for Medicare for all. Socialists believe that workers come first. Although we can debate over whether they achieve this objective, there is no denying that they are right about their goal.

 

Is it worth being deeper in the hole by 1.4 trillion dollars??

 

I agree with cutting funding to the military. Disagree with cutting funds to border security however.

 

Open borders isn't just a democratic proposition, there have been plenty of open border republican enthusiasts. Both parties have promoted cheap foreign labor as a way of cutting and dragging down wages in this country so that corporations can horde more money for themselves.

The simple answer to population growth along with economic prosperity is by raising wages for the domestic or indigenous working class so they can in return afford housing and have large families rather than replacing your population with foreigners to achieve population growth. [The engine of economic growth first and foremost is people.]

The problem of course is twofold, radical feminism which causes women to have children at a much later portion of their lives if at all, and job outsourcing where there simply isn't enough jobs or occupations domestically to go around for the people that already reside in the nation. Those are two serious problems that requires some huge social economic structural changes.

If we cut military spending in half more money could go to social public welfare programs, public works, and infrastructure domestically. There could also be a mandatory national tax that everybody pays into eventually to support such a system but that would require everybody making adequate wages across all economic social classes of people in society to be even feasible. [You can't tax a population that scraps by on the bare minimum.]

 

There is a difference between communism and social capitalism that caters to private businesses [ within regulation] but also has extensive public social programs controlled by the state for all citizens to utilize.

 

The fact that under current crony capitalism that claims to be the best economic system in the world has huge swathes of people that cannot afford food monthly where they're forced into dependence on the government to feed themselves should alarm anybody.

 

I myself am a big fan of the Scandinavian economic model.

[Minus democracy of course.]

 

I tell you what, you can turn California in your ideal communist state or paradise so long as I can turn Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and Iowa into my ideal autocratic national socialist fascistic state.

Agreed?

 

The cutting of military funding in half would along with an eventual national mandatory tax initiative.

 

Nope, studies have been made showing that the tax cuts are not being reinvested back into the country by many corporations. Instead they're being used for stock buybacks, raising profits of CEO's, or being parked into banks.

 

All I know is pre-Trump the US was 21 trillion in debt, the military and defense had been depleted and stripped to bare bones like that of a 3rd world natiion while Russia and China were pulling out far ahead, the economy was stagnant, no GDP growth, Obamacare mandate was tightening the noose around everyone's neck, stock market was down. Post-Trump...It did cost him a trillion to get the military and defense back up to where it should be, but it had to be done to keep the boogeyman from the door.

That said in order to shrink the deficit Congress will need to get serious about cutting entitlements though, not keep handing them out like candy to get re-elected and taking in more immigrants and supporting them on programs which only adds to the problem. In other words SOCIALIST programs that GROW the deficit which Bernie Sanders, Alex Ocasio Cortez, and frankly ALL DEMOCRATS keep pushing need to go and we need to put immigration on hold for a while until we can afford it and or ONLY take those in that can work and fully support themselves ...basically get rid of the Visa lottery as Trump said and only allow those in on merit that are skilled.

 

I believe that healthcare, work apprenticeships, and education should be universal for all.

 

ISIS/Mohammad loves you.

 

Funding for the United States military is largely for offensive purposes not defense.

It's being used for Syria, Yemen, international arms sales, Israel, and supporting initiatives of increasing United States military presence around the world. Even more damning there are maniacs that believe provoking a fight with Russia and China is a good idea.

Sorry, but believe that all that money to the military is going to noble causes is very naive.

About forty five percent of the nation is struggling barely getting by living in poverty, if you cut entitlements even more than they already have been as you suggest that number would triple overnight.

I'm a racial or ethnic nationalist meaning my ideal foreign immigration index is zero.

 

No, in my ideal state ISIS members and jihadists would be crucified in public squares for display.

We would also bring back guillotines and public hangings.

 

Reason why I said cutting border security is because if they make it illegal to hire undocumented aliens and put some teeth into the laws, the influx of illegals crossing the border will drop sharply off, thus reducing the need for a large border security force. As long as there are jobs to be had, they'll come regardless of border staffing IMO.

 

Deal!

 

It is not a bogey man

 

I don't know where you got your information from but the military and defense were never stripped and depleted to bare bones like that of a third world nation. Third world nations would have drooled over our military pre-trump. Whether Russia and China were pulling out far ahead of us was debatable. Besides, war has become obsolete since the Gulf War. There was no boogeyman at the door, that was propoganda by the neo-cons who took lessons from Karl Rove on fear tactics. The economy during the Obama years was slowly improving given the state of its condition when he took office; contrary to what you maintain, the stock market was up again from when GW Bush handed over the reigns to Obama (the nation was in a deep recession).

Instead of cutting entitlements (which are for the social good of America) how about cutting back on military spending, change the laws so that those employers and unscrupulous business's who hire illegal immigrants are charged with felonies that have some teeth in them so the penalties are severe if convicted. No jobs for them, very few will illegally cross the border. Get rid of socialist programs which grow the deficit or raise taxes? Does that mean eliminate or cut back on the fire departments, police, sanitation, schools, hospitals, libraries, etc since they are all social programs provided by the government?

Put immigration on hold? Fine by me as long as H-2b programs are shelved as well until we have 100% of all Americans eligible are working.

 

Sorry but believing in cutting defense and military spending is extremely naive. As long as sociopaths such as Kim Jong Un, Putin, Ali khamenei of Iran, ISIS, virtually all Arab nations, etc.are ruling nations, it would be ludicrous to beileve they would not try to invade the US especially given the fact they all have a history of that very behavior. The best offense truly is a great defense. Obama had our military so depleted and challenged, men were being sent into battle with broken rifles and our planes were falling out of the sky. As far as the country impoverished and struggling on programs..there are far more jobs now than there are people to fill them. At the very least people should be forced to work for those entitlements so they don't want to just sit at home getting high all day playing video games.

I do however, fully agree in completely cutting off illegals. If we stopped rewarding and supporting them, they'd stop coming.

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I see some of your logic there however foreign immigrants are not the only reason for border security as there are also foreign enemies abroad, spies, and so on.

Let's just say there needs to be adequate yet not ridiculous amounts of money devoted to border security.

 

What would be really funny is that if it happened we might have to trade with each other for purely mutual economic reasons of our newly founded independent territories.

Communists and fascists on trading ventures with each other, next we'll be saying cats or dogs are falling out of the sky! Well it wouldn't be too much of a stretch really, all neo liberal western democracies can't seem to get enough of communist China's money. So yeah, there's that also.

I promise not to go Poland on you!

 

The United States wouldn't have so many enemies if it didn't try to subvert, rule over, control, and dominate the rest of the planet like it has since the end of world war II. When you do all of that from 1945-2018 you're bound to make a lot of enemies or create a lot of people that want to destroy you.

Your perception of needing to have the largest military in the world is one driven by state propaganda. You need to question more where your information comes from.

Yes, we agree on foreign immigration although as I like to say around here if it was up to me it would be cut down to zero for the next two hundred years.

 

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