Ten Killed in Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting; Gunman Yelled 'All Jews Must Die'

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  1. truth and justice

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    "I get unreasonably angry when i think about the state of the country Its good that Trump is in charge but i feel it'll all go south in a few years Why do/they have to be in charge?? Im rambling again lol. how are you doing?"

    https://kiwifarms.is/threads/robert-bowers-onedingo.49350/page-5

    So "Its good that Trump is in charge". Likes the use of calling immigrants "invaders". Blames Jews for invaders.
     
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    No, most voted for Hillary (48%), Trump got 46%. Obama, the hater of Jews, got 58% in 2012.
     
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    He had enough love for them to give them more money than any other US president, and helped them build the Iron Dome missile defense system. Constantly bending over for Israel is not a show of love, it is a show of gullibility and weakness. Reagan supported Israel, but was strong enough to not allow them to play him. Same with Bush (both Bushes).

    Either Obama was a muslim, or he sat in a 'racist' Christian church for 20 years. Pick one and run with it, because it can't be both.
     
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    Yes that was a mistake I corrected later
     
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    Stoneman school shooting in Fl. Is the MAGA hat wearer who killed kids in school. Now he didn't have it on as he did his murder rampage.

    Dailymail? Isn't that the british version of National Enquirer? Yes, I think it is.
    Interesting though, the only bigger terror threat in the US other than RW was 911. So you are in agreement with RW terror.
    Does 911 justify the RW terrorism for you?
     
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    How can it go further south.
    Mail bomber, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter. Can't get much lower that the terrorism tRUMP is inciting.
     
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    Those small handful, so I hear, of fringe dwelling nazoids sure have been busy.
     
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    The right wing is nuts in this country
     
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    That's the quote from Robert Bowers. He is upset that Trump is not far enough right wing for his liking. Bowers definition of going south is going left wing
     
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    They're nuts on my screen, too. Coincidence?
     
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    Are you incapable of not going after posters themselves? What delusion might that be?
     
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    So you made a false claim.
     
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    I think maybe you need to retrace our exchange back to the beginning to find out what exactly it is that you are attempting to defend.
     
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    There is nothing to defend, it's a fact another GOP office was firebombed. Trying to deny that fact is the delusion and it belongs to you.
     
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    Again, you are still confused. I wasn't disputing that as a fact.
     
  16. FatBack

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    lol, so what were you attempting to dispute?
     
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    No, I do not think there's a connection. My comment was a response to this question posed by a previous comment; "I personally don't know anyone who hates Israel."

    Jews and Arab Muslims date their claims to the land back a couple thousand years, the current political conflict began in the early 20th century. This hate crime in Pittsburgh had nothing to do with the Arab/Jewish conflicts in the Middle East. This was about anti-Semitism for whatever reason. Who knows what the thinking of a radical is or why he thinks that way. His alt-right thinking was enabled and emboldened by others whether it was on his white nationalist website or from his social network or whatever. For anyone who hasn't realized it yet, this is what Steve Bannon, as the White House Chief Strategist vowed two years ago to fight every day for a "deconstruction of the administrative state". Steve Bannon is out of the White House but his ideology within the Oval Office is very present in Stephen Miller.
     
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    Trump is kind of right they should have at least some armed security during events, sad to say Jews are targets of hate crime, to not have one off duty officer or maybe two and checking for threats is rather short sighted. It's a large religious center they had no members in the police department or other branch of law enforcement not able to be armed present it seems to me that might have made a difference. Armed better or not a trained officer is generally good at shooting to and one bullet could have ended this before he got into a defensive position in the building.

    But how are you going to stop one determined idiot whose racist from killing a bunch of people if he wants to, my only thought consider more extreme racist views a dangerous mental illness and then Baker Act them and if found to be dangerous institutionalize them but we won't do that in this country.
     
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    You can't possibly believe that Trump bears any responsibility for this crazed neo-Nazi's horrendous act. Surely you are aware that Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is thought by many, to be the power behind the throne, is an orthodox Jew and that he and Ivanka keep Kosher -- and that Trump's grand children are Jewish too. Get a grip.
     
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    So HumbledPI, You are not aware that Jared Kushner is an orthodox Jew and that Trump's daughter and grandkids are Jewish too?? I don't like Trump, but your post makes no sense at all. Believe me the neo-Nazis were around long before Trump was on the scene. I have personally prosecuted some of them years ago. Trying to make your connection is like trying to say that a small stream in the Rockies is the cause of the Pacific ocean.
     
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    While Bannon is doing everything he can to bring Fascism to Europe and may have a win in a couple of hours with Bolsonaro in Brazil.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/n...emerging-fascist-international-in-europe.html

    https://www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/the-rise-of-neo-fascism-in-brazil-17573404
     
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    And an armed guard in every mail truck, and an armed guard in every aisle at Kroger....

    :rolleyes:
     
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    You took this link from the Daily Caller which is a far-right conservative website. You will not find this on any legitimate site such as Aljazeera, BBC, NBC, etc. It's fake news and you're spreading hatred and division by pushing this story as if it was true, which it is not. If you look at the photo on the link, that's not even a photo from the inauguration as noted. If you google "GOP office set on fire" you will see many articles regarding this fake news, "ww4conservative" "newsbusters" "kek.gg" "YouTube" "gachiyellow.wordpress" "googlegroups" "facebook" "twitter" and of course the Daily Caller which is not a legitimate news source, it is a conservative and opinion website.

    The American Action Network is a nonprofit issue advocacy group based in Washington, D.C. which promotes center-right public policy. It was established in 2010 by Fred Malek and Norm Coleman (both of whom are strongly affiliated with the Republican Party) as a 501 organization.

    Politifact has rated the stories promoted by American Action Network as either half-truths, mostly false and pants-on-fire false.
     
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    That doesn't mean a thing, not a thing. Of course I know that the Kushner's are Jewish. Trump will use any Jews if there's some money to be made from it. That doesn't change the fact that he's been pushing the anti-semitic agenda of Stephen Miller which originated with Steve Bannon who are both white nationalists.

    It's a sobering fact that Jews living in Jerusalem, even with rockets being fired from Hamas, are safer than the Jews attending a service in their synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
     
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    Well lets hope you won't. There is no way you can stop the odd unexpected fanatic. Not worth lowering your standards and giving up your freedom for.

    I am sure everyone will be looking again at their security but hopefully this is a one off.
     

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