Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

How much are they using and where ?? The Chinese will never do anything to reduce their economic growth and plan to dominate the world economy. Your naïveté is breathtaking.

 

And if that government runs wild it can do a lot of regressive damage as ours has done by assuming that disparate outcomes can be solved by government actions.

 

Can you explain what you mean when you say 'government'?

 

I have NO idea what you're talking about.

Obviously, we do need a police force, a system of justice, legislatures of representatives, taxes, national defense, etc.

But, somehow it feels like you're going somewhere else with this!

 

They are three times our size. You can't expect them to NOT try to be great.

Would you propose that WE shouldn't try to be great?

How about the EU and India?

How about Mexico?

 

Well, I've hear that theory before.

I don't see much to support it, though.

We're still managing to prevent equal opportunity. We even have a president who campaigns on racism and hatred. That's what America STANDS for now!

 

lol! Nobody has any doubt what out government is comprised of.

If you have an issue, you should just explain it.

 

We do? Who is "we"?

 

Hm, failure on your part. Can you explain what you mean when you say 'government'?

 

Their economy will be 3X that of the US by 2050. And they will never compromise their plan to dominate the world's economy and governance by reducing economic growth by utilizing expensive energy sources.

 

I've just given you some extreme examples which caused incredible regressive harm. And you don't see much to support the fact that BIG GOV is harmful ??

We are preventing equal opportunity by government policies. What do you think Affirmative Action does ?? Ask Asian students.

And as suspected you suffer from TDS. It's funny how minorities are benefiting from the economic policies implemented by Trump/Republicans - economic growth, jobs, and real wages increases. The regressive Democrats want to stop all that and instead place the welfare of non US citizens above blue collar US citizens.

 

Well, they are 3X our population, so that's not particularly shocking, if we don't take action.

The thing is, we need to be competitive, and unfortunately for us (I suppose) manufacturing just isn't going to lead there, because pretty much everyone can do manufacturing now.

New economy competition will be in high tech, clean energy, innovation, automation, information, etc. In those fields, the "raw material" is brains. And, we have only 5% of that resource.

But, we're stifling education by charging individuals huge amounts for college. We think we can throw away brains simply because parents aren't wealthy!!! That's just unbelievable BULL. We only have 5%! That's not some sort of surplus!

If we want to compete, we need to get everyone who is interested an able through college so they can create the explosion we need.

China, Germany, and others are working on that. That (and Trump) is why China is so far ahead in clean energy patents, for example.

 

DON'T put words in my mouth! It makes you a LIAR when you do that.

 

Really? I don't remember any examples you gave.

 

I had a pretty good idea that as simple as this explanation is, it would still be beyond your capacity. This is one of the great problems with the human race- people don't learn to master their own minds; they tend to bellieve that whatever they think is the benchmark for reality. It's like your judgment tool is a yardstick that you have used all your life, but it is defective and actually takes 15 fifteen inches to show a foot. So all your life, you think people are cheating you while you are actually cheating them- and when the problem is pointed out, you insist they should prove you wrong by using YOUR yardstick. You just never question what you believe- and so stay in the same hole all your life.

In the years I spent teaching people how to grow, I ran into this constantly- the people who needed it the worst were the ones who fought it the hardest. Its like condemning yourself to stay in the dark forever, and convincing yourself that you the only one that knows what's real, and others are responsible for your failures and frustration... thus you are powerless.

Of course you don't have an explanation. You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about- but you know what you believe now isn't working right, don't you?
I've been there, I understand your position- but I learned and changed. Now, what I believe does work. Everyday and in every aspect of life.
You might consider that throughout history, most of the people have been wrong about most of their beliefs most of the time- and that is because they cling to them, and want any new knowledge to fit in neatly with what they already believe....

And all new ideas or concepts must pass the test of their yardstick, thus insuring that no accurate understanding will ever be acceptable.
Nothing I can do to change that, you are stuck in your own trap.

 

I'm sorry, but you just didn't have anything to say.

You claimed I said several things that I absolutely did not say.

Then, you tried to rebuff the words you put in my mouth - and didn't make any points even at that.

Think about using three or four sentences, including at least one that states your point.

 

China has ~ 1 billion people living on ~ $2000 per year. Their economic growth is ~ 8% per year. Ours is ~ 4% - 2% under Obama. That accounts for their growth.

Why is higher education so costly in the US ?? That’s the problem. What are the socialists doing about that problem ?? And why do you assume that getting everyone through college is a will make the US more competitive ??

Your assumptions that China is at all interested in expensive green energy is cute. They are quite willing to sell it to the moron global warming alarmists in the west but they aren’t about to reduce their economic growth by using it themselves.

 

Some righties believe everything they hear about climate change from righty news, much in the way the left swallows everything cnn tells them...still its wrong to apply that to ALL conservatives...a trait common among the left is to put people in groups and not see them individually and your thread certainly proves this point...look i just did it too..i said the whole left does this when they probably dont...stop that!..anyway. this righty believes in climate change and science ...also. when will these poser lefty celebrities stop using their fuel hog private jets to attend global warming conferences? Man, what a bunch of phonies

 

Your post indicates that their is no legal life until birth. That’s knot putting words in your mouth. When then is it permissible to allow an abortion ??

 

And you did not indicate how much, where, and what percentage of total energy (not capacity) is provided.

The Chinese are playing the west for their own benefit and the detriment of the global warming alarmists in the west. It’s amazing to watch the brainiacs being lead down the garden path.

 

OK, here's the problem. You are a motivational speaker type of guy.

So, please note that nobody is going to dispute that an individual COULD make great decisions for themselves and that their success will have a lot to do with individuals striving to do better.

But, regulation really isn't about individuals making great decisions for themselves.

Take the clean water act - regulation on rivers, etc., etc.

The problem had to do with individuals and corporations dumping unbelievable amounts of abject crap and poison into our rivers.

So, guess what? We had to make some regulation to stop that - even though it was cheaper and easier for corporations do dispose of their industrial waste by using our rivers as their sewers.

Was that more expensive? It was to the offending persons who could no longer offend! But, it was a boon to those who benefit from having others not poison them!

Did that hamper your students from striving to succeed? Of course not.

Did that have anything to do with the government helping someone who wouldn't help themselves? Of course not.

 

Well, first of all there aren't any socialists in America. As we look at our various problems let's keep that in mind.

China is growing rapidly under GIGANTIC amounts of government control! I don't think you want to claim THAT'S what is good. And, I would guess it has more to do with their phase of growth.

Tuition is high right now because we don't care about college education. When was the last time Trump or some Republican congressman wanted to have science help inform public policy? I really think it's just that simple. Educational institutions are seen as dens of iniquity to be avoided. What they say is fake news designed by "progressives".


So, State funding for colleges and universities is lower than 2008 levels in all but about 3 states (including Wyoming and Montana, as I remember - in other words, states so small it makes no national difference). This year, state funding for colleges and universities is up by less than inflation. During the Bush crash, states had to cut their budgets, and that's what happened to education. And, no, I'm not suggesting it is only red states

We cut funding, raise tuition and get happy that kids of low income parents aren't competing with our kids.

A good college education is expensive. They keep working on it - using cheap graduate student labor (instead of the profs you want to study under), hiring cheap adjunct professors, use on-line methods that are good at least when not overused, etc.

 

I not going to try to teach Chinese energy policy in a post!

And, that's especially true when the response I get is more of the "fake news" drone with full fear attached.

China is the world leader in clean energy. That should be good enough.

 

Everybody wants fewer abortions. Everybody.

The thing is, the majority aren't interested in trying to lower the abortion rate using laws against women. The right wing SHOULD understand that. What other case is there where the right wing wants the government intruding that significantly?

Besides, look at Canada. It's clear that there are ways we COULD work together on the goal that we share.

So why (besides the political wedge issue) keep hammering away on those who don't like these laws instead of working WITH them on methods that appear to have success?

 

The D party is full of socialists.

Funding comes from taxpayers. Cut the costs of college education by cutting the dumbass administration costs. When I went to engineering school the tuition was $100 per term. Government policies make college expensive. That’s why the cost is increasing at ~ 3X the rate of inflation.