Should we retain birthright citizenship as is or change it?

There are only two countries that have it, plus it's a bad thing. Get rid of it.

 

I'm all for granting US citizenship to kids born in the USA. Why not? Who does it hurt?

 

My point is that the 13th amendment only applied to slaves didn't it?

 

Even birth tourism kids? Even to parents on temporary visa's where the family is going back to their home country. Why should the child have dual citizenship? What good does it do? Why do all but one but one other developed countries disallow it if it is so good?

 

I agree on birth tourism, Bluesguy, should not be allowed, but that will take an amendment.

Which other country allows dual citizenship?

 

Yes.

Yes.

Why should anyone have citizenship?

They get all the freedom and benefits of being a citizen.

Other countries are xenophobic. Besides that, many countries are the homelands of specific cultural and ethnic identities.

 

Of course you know my question is about THIS particular citizenship, try again.

What good is it to the country that people sneak in illegally and give birth and that child gains US citizenship?

So all other developed countries in the world except the US and Canada are zenophobic and you support racial and ethnic nationalism. Gotcha......

 

Birthright citizenship has been around for 150 years and is going nowhere.

No worthy counter argument against it has been posted.

 

I don't call a difference between a baby who was born here to a natural citizen or illegal immigrants. US citizen status is special. It's a gift for human kind.

Our capitalist system needs every beating heart to spend their money and grow the economy.

It is what it is.

 

The change that SHOULD be made is one that allows birthright citizenship ONLY to the children of legal citizens of the United States of America.

Just because an illegal alien woman gives birth to her offspring on American soil, that child should not (NOT) automatically become a citizen of the United States! That is illogical, and ludicrous!

 

iyo, Pollycy.

 

The 14th Amendment was all about making sure the former slaves were recognized as citizens of this nation. The Supreme court ruled in the late 1800's that a person born here of legal residents was a citizen. It was not until 1924, and by an act of congress, not, repeat, NOT the 14th Amendment that Indians were given US citizenship.

Congress can't seem to get anything done, so Trump's proposed EO ending citizenship of those born in this country by those that are here illegally is the prefect vehicle to bring this question to the Supreme Court. Or we could just wait till January of 2021 and see if that congress can get off of top dead center and get things done.

 

So it should not be given so lightly.

Well when that heart is born here and then a week later goes back to the foreign country where it is a citizen they are not spending money here and growing the economy. We have AMPLE LEGAL immigration to accomplish that. How do tourist birth accomplish that.

Bluesguy said: ↑
So all other developed countries in the world except the US and Canada are zenophobic and you support racial and ethnic nationalism. Gotcha......

So all of Europe and developed Asia are xenophobic and racist?

 

LOL! ^^^^^ this ^^^^^

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

^^^ Indeed, the entire anti-immigrant movement just does not make any sense, mentally or morally.

 

Should we retain birthright citizenship as is or change it?

If we do change it there will be a lot of new "Illegals" to deport and pregnant women to track until we can deport them and their bad hombre midgets too. How far back should we go to find them?

 

So 77 to 22 so far that only the children at least of legal residency. Parents here illegally nope. 1/3 saying eliminate tourism birthright and temporary visa's, the parents must have a green card at the least.

 

Those who have already been granted citizenship would be grandfathered in.

 

There is no "anti-immigrant movement".

 

That would help, though I doubt it would happen (or could) and the cost of doing so in financial/societal realities would be quite high. Seldom do people consider the logistical problems involved in purging a population.....just think of the current illegal alien issue and multiply by 3 or four, then consider what the new "Birthright Elimination Taskforce". would need to look like in personnel and regulation....ICE would look like a boyscout troop.

 

Yes, the anti-immigrant movement took a beating last night.

 

I doubt that that would not be the case and there would be no purging.

 

The pro-illegal-immigration movement took one in the Senate. Don't know of an anti-immigrant movement.

 

You know it, so you pretend it does not exist.