Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s too funny. Thinking the Chinese are the champions of green energy is completely delusional. Of course the left believes that Iran has stopped developing nuclear weapons as well. Do yourself a favor and read “The Hundred red Year Marathon” and educate yourself on the Chinese
     
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    That’s BS. The abortion industry wants more abortions.

    The majority are interested in defending human life.
     
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    This is the same thing that the Big Tobacco corporations did to deny the science that smoking causes cancer. They hired faux "scientists" to muddy the data and to come up with anything and everything that would enable them to continue to make billions of dollars at the expense of the health and lives of their addicted consumers.
     
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    So you are only blaming solar panels while conveniently ignoring the filthy toxic pollution from your own cell phones, laptops, flat screen tv's, power tools, etc, etc, etc?
     
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    The RW term "thugs" is a racist dog whistle referring to blacks.
     
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    Global warming, sustainable development, plastic straws, ddt, environmentalism, ecoglgy, all claiming science, all claiming the social good supercedes individual rights. It’s not the function of government to tell you to not to use straws, to tell you how much water to use in your toilet bowl, to tell you what light bulb is permissible, and on, and on, and on. It’s purpose is to defend your right to use any damn straw you want, to flush your toilet how you see fit, to screw in the light bulb you want, to ensure your right to “...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...” is defended and protected, not trampled and ignored in the name of mosquitoes, field mice, and Condors.

    Ayn Rand: “In order to survive, man has to discover and produce everything he needs, which means that he has to alter his background and adapt it to his needs. Nature has not equipped him for adapting himself to his background in the manner of animals. From the most primitive cultures to the most advanced civilizations, man has had to manufacture things; his well-being depends on his success at production. The lowest human tribe cannot survive without that alleged source of pollution: fire. It is not merely symbolic that fire was the property of the gods which Prometheus brought to man. The ecologists are the new vultures swarming to extinguish that fire.”

    http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/ecology-environmental_movement.html

    The unsubtatiated, chicken-little, fear mongering assertion that global warming is a man-made catastrophic species ending event is just absurd; and when used as a justification for the enslavement of Man, it becomes a disgusting and despicable display of the ugly horror of evil.
     
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    So by ignoring the warnings of scientists the planet becomes incapable of sustaining human life just because the rightwingers refuse to embrace the concept of "social good"?

    Do right-wingers believe that they are NOT part of society?

    Or do they just hate the rest of society so much that they are willing to commit suicide in order to destroy it...and themselves?
     
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    I was actually referring to the state.

    BTW, what is a 'black'?
     
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    Oh but it does. Anytime that the government takes responsibility that should belong to an individual, that person gladly accepts that the problem involved is no longer his, or never was, thus no need to do or think for themselves. That applies to anything from personal welfare to environmental respect. People spend a great deal of energy trying to not be responsible for anything, or trying to make someone else responsible for their problems. That is the reason why America has three times more lawyers per capita than any other country in the world. We love dodging responsibility, blaming others, and fighting over blame instead of addressing issues. We enable that kind of disability officially.

    When you make something all about the regulations, you remove the responsibility of character and self-discipline from the issue. People are individuals, not sheep- and they don't herd like sheep.... Ever try herding cats? They want to do what they want to do. Trick is to make them want to do the same thing you want them to do.
    Same thing with us. Individual values matter greatly, because when the right ones are predominate, things work well automatically. When the wrong ones are predominate, you can write regulations till hell freezes over and still be mostly unsuccessful. Regulations impose much more burden on those who don't need regulating than those who don't care and ignore or dodge them. It's like the dozen or so people in federal prison for importing lobster in plastic containers instead of wood ones. How the hell do things come to that?
    Bad regulations- injustice built in, insuring that they will be seen as unreasonable, therefore rules to dodge rather than respect.


    We regulate drugs, don't we?
    How's that worked out?
     
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    The bible is not science. It shouldn't even be mentioned in a diatribe about those who reject science. Believing in the bible is not about science. It is about religious belief.

    Climate change has been with us since the earth was formed. The current change could be natural or it could be unnatural. Science doesn't know. What we conservatives do know is that the hysteria about it is fueled by politics, not science. It has become a political issue between those who want more government control and those who want less.
     
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    All scientists are human beings, and human beings tend to be crooked. That should have been a clue for "Global Warming" True Believers. ;-)

    Climate science has been especially crooked from the start. The data as never been credible.
     
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    There's plenty good money to be made by telling the lies of the climate trade.
     
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    When most of the peers are crooked how reliable can the review ever be?

    "Cancer researcher Robert Weinberg lost four papers this year: A 2009 Cell paper, another in Cancer Research, and two in Genes and Development. At the time it was pulled, the Cell paper had been cited 676 times."
    THE SCIENTIST, The Top 10 Retractions of 2015, A look at this year’s most memorable retractions, By Retraction Watch | December 23, 2015.
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/44895/title/The-Top-10-Retractions-of-2015/

    Fake science lives on even long after a "retraction".
     
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    The extremist right-wing is anti-science and anti-education which means that they automatically assign nonsensical agendas to things that they nothing about.
     
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    Can you read? Read the last section again.
     
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    Like chromosomes, biology, and the stages of human reproduction? :roflol: IRONIC!
     
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    Mann is currently the director of the Earth Systems Science Center at Penn State. How any one would give this guy a job after his dishonesty is unbelievable.
     
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    The question of "legal life" is just won of the issues. Their are other wons two. The mane won is the point at witch the feet-us can feel pane, and that is generally agreed two bee at about weak 25. There four, Roe v. Wade and most medical professionals favor a cut-off at the 20th weak. That is also wear I stand, two.

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    Follow the money and find the crooked "scientists".

    "[A]fter confessing to spiking samples for an HIV vaccine experiment, Dong Pyou-Han—whose case we mentioned in last year’s retractions roundup—was sentenced to nearly five years in prison and ordered to pay back millions of dollars in grant funding. It’s not the only time we’ve seen felony counts for fraudsters, but the sentence makes it the most remarkable one. (He’s appealing the decision.)"
    THE SCIENTIST, The Top 10 Retractions of 2015, A look at this year’s most memorable retractions, By Retraction Watch | December 23, 2015.
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/44895/title/The-Top-10-Retractions-of-2015/
     
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    When they give awards to climate scientists for promoting science fraud you know that Fake Science rules.
     
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    I agree 100% with this, I don't think most right wingers believe science is fake, but for their political power and ideologies they need to refute science.
     
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    Man must assume the role of GOD to manage the climate. He can't so much as prevent tornadoes.
     
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    But for Democratic party politics, this all could remain pure science. But it was Democrats in the USA and who knows who elsewhere that made it politics.

    As to science, we have experts, true scientists who do not buy the alarmists messages. That is not politics, but just science.

    The alarmists would have us believe man is in charge of climate and has spooky ways to modify climate.
     
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    The extremist left-wing is anti-science and anti-education which means that they automatically assign nonsensical agendas to things that they nothing about.
     
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    Everyone knows that Fake Science is real and rampant.
    This is no longer a secret - why pretend you don't know?

    "Two years ago this month, news of the replication crisis reached the front page of the New York Times. “Psychology’s Fears Confirmed: Rechecked Studies Don’t Hold Up,” read the A1 headline on the morning of Aug. 28, 2015. The journal Science had just published a landmark effort to reproduce the findings of 100 recent peer-reviewed psychology experiments, and just 39 of those replications succeeded. This dispiriting result, the Times reported, “confirmed the worst fears of scientists who have long worried that the field needed a strong correction.”
    SLATE: SCIENCE, Is Science Broken? Or is it self-correcting? By Daniel Engber, Lisa Larson-Walker, AUG. 21 2017.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...is_not_self_correcting_science_is_broken.html
     
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