The Religion of Atheism

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of these things are proven to any mind but yours, which is shall we say...."Interesting". And if we were to eliminate the one "GOD" you do believe in then you are Atheist (Do not believe in) all the other versions.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but in order for that to be valid you need to list the particular set of beliefs and practices that are common to all athiests. Note the word " and"
     
  3. Buri

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    Wow, that thing everyone has? Really?
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...isn't it strange how he cannot grasp that part?
     
  5. Kode

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    Of course. But God doesn't have them and a proper, spiritual understanding of the bible would reveal this. They ALL represent conflict with eternal purity to begin with.
     
  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the Bible(s) are wrong?
     
  7. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    The bible presents "milk" knowing that most are not able to receive "strong meat". But with spiritual revelation on the verses and the Truth, it is all easily seen though it remains hidden from those who are not ready for it.
     
  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words...It Is Wrong.
     
  9. Kode

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    Sez you. I would say it is misleading to those who remain "the natural man".
     
  10. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    About that...what exactly is "The Natural Man" I always though we were all natural (as in part of nature). Is this some new way of saying religious?
     
  11. Kokomojojo

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    top shelf fail!
    hilarious!

    so you want to sell that atheists have no beliefs what so ever, please....
    good luck with that.
     
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  12. Kode

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    Since the bible says "the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God, nor can he understand them, for these things are spiritually discerned", it is clear that the natural man is he who lacks spiritual discernment and therefore cannot receive "the things of the spirit". So it remains up to each person to decide whether belief in an angry god who is "pure" and who "is love" and is "unchanging" can ever be angry or hate anything. ...--or whether an all-powerful "god" who is in complete control can really want all to be "saved" and not get what he "wants". What does such a god REALLY want?

    Religionists ("the natural man") chose to believe a contradiction and even refuse to see the contradictory nature of the contradiction:" they will tell you they belief god "wants" all to be saved but that he doesn't get it, and yet his will is done and he is in total control. Yet they will also say he dwells outside of, or beyond time, and knows the end from the beginning. How can such a god "want" anything? Want means not knowing for one thing.
     
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    Also, yes, "part of nature". The bible also refers to that as "carnal mind" which means flesh-based thinking, believing that "I am my body" and concerned with the things of the flesh, like plans, knowledge/understandings, intentions, expectations, desires, hopes, success, ownership, wants, needs, purposes, beliefs, etc. etc.

    To escape this inconvenient truth, religionists choose often to believe that "carnal mind" means sexual interests which they then claim "with the help of the Lord I have under control". Hence they claim to be free of "carnal mind".
     
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    Well, this is incredibly stupid because all people have some beliefs of some kind, saying atheists are satanists and all have the same beliefs is beyond childish.
     
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    it is incredibly stupid, glad you see at least some of the point being made here. Then again you dive right into the next vat of stupid since I never said all atheists are satanists, that is what you said I said, and I never said that all atheists have the same beliefs about everything there is to have a belief about, but all atheists do have the same beliefs or they could not even be atheists ffs.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    for starters they believe there is no God, and therefore practice and preach antitheism.
     
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    Hindus don't believe there is a God and Buddhists don't really care if there is a God, do they practice and preach antitheism?
     
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    neither do they believe there is no God .
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    When you capitalize the word god, this usually denotes the Judeo-Christian God. Hindus don't believe in "God", they believe in Vishnu, Shiva, Brahmā, Ganesha, Kārtikeya and a host of others.
     
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    Nope sorry but that isn't, as you well know what is meant by practices.
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    all of which are proper nouns.
    Its not too difficult.

    prac·tice
    /ˈpraktəs/
    noun
    noun: practice
    1. 1.
      the actual application or use of an idea, belief, or method as opposed to theories about such application or use.
      "the principles and practice of teaching"
      synonyms: application, exercise, use, operation, implementation, execution
      "the practice of hypnosis"
      use, make use of, put to use, utilize, apply
      "it's time you put your teaching degree into practice"
      • the customary, habitual, or expected procedure of something.
        plural noun: practices
        "current nursing practice"
        synonyms: custom, procedure, policy, convention, tradition;
        formalpraxis
        "common practice"
      • the carrying out or exercise of a profession, especially that of a doctor or lawyer.
        "he abandoned medical practice for the Church"
        synonyms: profession, career, business, work
        "the practice of medicine"
      • the business or premises of a doctor or lawyer.
        "Dr. Weiss has a practice in Essex"
        synonyms: business, firm, office, company;
        informaloutfit
        "a small legal practice"
      • an established method of legal procedure.
    2. 2.
      repeated exercise in or performance of an activity or skill so as to acquire or maintain proficiency in it.
      "it must have taken a lot of practice to become so fluent"
      synonyms: training, rehearsal, repetition, preparation;
      practice session, dummy run, run-through;
      informaldry run
      "it takes lots of practice"
      • a period of time spent doing this.
        "daily choir practices"
    verb
    verb: practise; 3rd person present: practises; past tense: practised; past participle: practised; gerund or present participle: practising; verb: practice; 3rd person present: practices; past tense: practiced; past participle: practiced; gerund or present participle: practicing
    1. 1.
      perform (an activity) or exercise (a skill) repeatedly or regularly in order to improve or maintain one's proficiency.
      "I need to practice my French"
      synonyms: rehearse, run through, go over/through, work on/at;
      polish, perfect
      "he practiced the songs every day"
      train, rehearse, prepare, go through one's paces
      "the performers were practicing"
    2. 2.
      carry out or perform (a particular activity, method, or custom) habitually or regularly.
      "we still practice some of these rituals today"
      synonyms: carry out, perform, observe
      "we still practice these rituals today"
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and as a noun it is entirely different from a belief which was the equivalence you tried to create. So try again to list the practices common to athiesm.
     
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    what? try again you arent making any sense, may want to actually read and comprehend the definition before spouting a knee jerk response.
     
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    Well communicating with an idiot isn't my strong suit but will try again. The definition of practices you posted do not state that beliefs and practices are equivalent. That is why you definition of religion says " beliefs and practices". Now if you don't understand " and"
     
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    The practices of a religion may include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration, sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trances, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, religious music, religious art, sacred dance, public service, or other aspects of ... Wikipedia
     

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