Does multiculturalism actually work?

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Multiculturalism has the same ambitions as Soviet Communism. It is absolutist in the pursuit of its various agendas, yet it relativizes all other perspectives in its attack on its enemies. Multiculturalism is an ideology to end all other ideologies, and these totalitarian aspirations permit us to draw two conclusions: First, multiculturalism must eliminate all opposition everywhere. There can be no safe havens for counter-revolutionaries. Second, once it is established the multicultural paradise must be defended at all costs. Orthodoxy must be maintained with all the resources of the state.In the long term, the most important battleground in the war against multiculturalism is the United States. The struggle is likely to be a slow, frustrating war of attrition. If it fails, the insanity of multiculturalism is something white Americans will have to live with. Of course, at some point whites may demand an end to being punished because of black failure. As Prof. Michael Hart argues in "The Real American Dilemma" (published by New Century Foundation and available from American Renaissance (http://www.amren.com) for $11.95, postage paid), there could be racial partition of the United States. We may find that what happened in the Balkans is not peculiar to that part of the world. Race war is not something the affluent radicals deliberately seek but their policies are pushing us in that direction.
    http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles-2009/Ellis-Multiculturalism-And-Marxism.php
     
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    The theory I find most plausible is that multiculturalism does work, but only to eliminate the dominant culture. This is why the left loves everybody who isn't a WASP, and doesn't get along with WASPs. They love gays and muslims, but they also know that muslims throw gays off of buildings, and when they don't have a tall enough building, they find a rope. They love muslims and women, even though they know that muslims think of women as little more than property. They love illegals and blacks, even though they know that illegals take all the unskilled labor jobs that blacks need thanks to being run through their notoriously bad public school systems.
     
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    One of the many so-called benefits of the collectivist view of things is the introduction of multiculturalism as a counter to the traditional culture of the west. That western culture which so many of those to the left of the political spectrum consider to be loathsome.

    It seems however that this multiculturalism is simply racism camouflaged in politically correct clothing. The multiculturalists hold that ethnic identity should be a central factor in educational and other policy decisions. Multiculturalism is quite likely to turn countries into collections of separatist groups each competing for power with the others.
    In this perverted climate, Asian on Black, Black on Asian, Black on Black, Asian on Asian and Black on White violence seems not to be racist. A couple of incidents from the United States illustrate perfectly the truth of this claim. Four years ago, the US press was full of reports of a man called James Byrd who was brutally murdered by three men in Jasper, Texas. The accused picked up Mr Byrd, beat him, chained him, and then dragged him to his death behind their truck. Politicians wrung their hypocritical hands, the media shed floods of tears, and ink, about the enormity of the crime and even the President issued a statement condemning the act. The press in this and other countries country joined in the act, asking what this kind of horrifying act portended for the future of the USA. Obviously here again was a clear example of the racism we are told is so entrenched in the US culture.

    The second example occurred just this year when a man named Ken Tillery, also in Jasper, Texas hitched a ride, this time with four men who held him hostage, beat him and then ran over him with their vehicle, crushing him to death. Unlike the case of Mr Byrd there was an almost deafening silence from the various news outlets and the only press report seems to have appeared in the Houston Chronicle. The difference in the treatment of the two cases? In this racist age, the explanation is very simple; the unfortunate Mr Tillery, unlike the equally unfortunate Mr Byrd, was white.
    http://www.quebecoislibre.org/021109-6.htm
    The link is from 2002. I can only assume that the status quo remains.
    The preceding paragraphs are quotes from within the link.
     
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    The absolutist opening of the OP (Multiculturalism has the same ambitions as Soviet Communism) is inaccurate, incomplete, and false.

    Two murder cases in Jasper County, Texas, have no bearing on the OP, despite the claims.
     
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    Its a quote from the link, which although lengthy, Ill bet you didnt read.
    The two deaths illustrate what happens in the US today. The press turn a blind eye to black on white
    assault, yet the opposite occurs when its white on black.
     
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    iow, billy the kid is attempting to defend a hasty generalization of two murders that supposedly represents murder in America over the last 20 odd years. Yeah, sure it does.

    OP fail.
     
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    No. The two links I have posted are extremely lengthy, one by a Canadian, and another by a
    Brit. I posed the question does multiculturalism work. In Australia we are told by our politicians that Australia is the most successful multicultural country on the planet. Im simply seeking opinions, thats all....
     
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    Doesnt communism promote equality amongst all men...just like multiculturalism...
    Or is it equal misery....
     
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    I disagree that it's just camouflaged racism. You named two examples, but there are all sorts of examples that make no sense unless you look at it from the perspective of vile hatred for european civilization. The fact that the enemy is white is a mere coincidence.

    The example that gets me is what happened in Rotherham. We all know what happened there, and the only guy that's even upset is Robinson, and he's not exactly sleeping easy these days. The progressives don't hate him because he's white. They hate him because he stands up proudly for european culture.
     
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    Of course its disguised racism. I only quoted two examples because the link only quoted two examples. However, throughout US the status quo remains. I disagree entirely with your statement that the enemy is white is a mere coincidence. Why is it then that the only countries where multiculturalism has been
    introduced are those where the population is predominantly white. Give me an example of a country with multiculturalism where the populations is predominantly non-white.
    I think there are more people upset in Rotherham than just Tommy Robinson...the muslims obviously hate him because he is gaining so much support, and the Brits (well, some of them) are becoming anti muslim.
    BTW, when a white south african, living in Australia, calls one of my family "trash" I think I can see just
    how successful multiculturalism is in Australia!!
     
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    I would argue that multiculturalism is a misnomer or more along the lines of a misdirection.

    It isn't multiculturalism it's just anti-western culturalism. Because if it was multiculturalism you would have to be tolerant of neo-nazis of ku Klux Klan of scientologists of westboro Baptist Church members and so forth. The fact that anybody who claims to support multiculturalism wishes to an act of violence against cultures they do not agree with.

    So let's think about it for a minute could you have a neighborhood where in one house there is a Neo-Nazi the house next door there's a Jewish family the house next door to that there's a ku Klux Klan member and the house next door to that there's an interracial gay couple and on the end of the block there is a member of the westboro Baptist Church? that would be what multiculturalism would look like.

    It's absolutely unsustainable and possible and really a way to hide a cultural supremacy.
     
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    The reason why multiculturalism is being introduced to european (and their derived i.e. canada, america, australia, nz etc.) cultures is because we went through what is called the renaissance. Those long hairs came up with ideas that are completely antiethical to other cultures like natural rights.

    Are people in Rotherham upset about their daughters being turned out and raped? Sorry, I am not seeing it. I mean, sure, some are quietly fuming, but Robinson is the one who has had it up to his ears. The rest are like... "oh well, la de dum dum, I guess my daughter will get over it, and umm... brexit? I guess that ain't happening, but it's okay. la de dum dum".

    I have more respect for cockroaches than I do for the British. Sure, some are angry, but the rest don't even register as cucks.

    It's not race that the communists despise, but rather a culture that they despise.
     
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    An exemplary example of 'Shooting the messenger' by the enemy inside loony liberals.
     
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    That garbage had been going on for years! Can you imagine being a father and finding out that your daughter had been raped and then turned into a whore, and the cops wouldn't do anything because they don't want to be called racist?

    It's still going on, and the brits aren't going to do anything about it, except maybe arrest more guys on trumped up charges who get angry about it.

    I have a daughter, and I can't even imagine being as cuckolded as the brits are about this. I would be climbing watchtowers and loaded for a lot more than bear!!! The brits? ladedumdum.
     
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    Actually I daresay some of them are as horrified as we are, but they're under orders right from the top, because much of it - and I presume we're talking about paedophilia - happens at the top.
     
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    Only if the cultures are compatible, otherwise it eventually destabilizes not strengthens. Root values above all else, not a race religion then maybe we can get somewhere, but right now the problem is with root values.
     
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    Would that matter to you in your job?

    I've worked as a JHS teacher, and if I heard about something like that, and the principle told me to just ignore it, I would have never been able to hold my head high until I exposed it

    We're talking about kids! And the cops are quiet because they have orders to be quiet?

    i've already given my thoughts on what cuckolds I find the british to be. This isn't helping their case.
     
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    Ah but would you though? Easy to say, but when you have a mortgage and mouths to feed and schools fees to pay, it would take a brave man to risk all of that by speaking out?
     
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    So have I, and none higher than me, especially in this subject; but I'm pragmatic enough to know 'You can't beat the system', and survival is the name of the game. But if push came to shove, I'd think of some way to expose it, but anonymously.
     
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    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...76CD8C5FC814801C45AC76CD8C5FC814&&FORM=VRDGAR
    ......."because of multiculturalism..." quote from video.....30 second mark
    "the whole world is paying the bill for Britains experiment of multiculturalism"
    ...@ 4min 20mark....
    Of course, this is caused by british politicians, not the people of the UK...
    PM's for decades have encouraged multiculturalism in the UK and look
    at the result.....
     
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    Push hasn't already come to shove?

    and then anonymously?

    Did you know that the english used to fight germans in trenches where they were gassed, or whistled over the top to certain death?

    but now it's just... yeah, okay. girls are being gang raped and turned into prostitutes by the thousands for over a decade, and i'd really like to call attention to that, but only as an anonymous source because I've got a job, and that's certainly more important that those little English girls...

    Excuse me while I find something less than honorable in your intentions.
     
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    however, CCCP had no multiculturalist agenda, on contrary it eradicated every trace of Multiculturalism, but although being absolutist in nature CCCP still allowed freedom of thought, which is not to be taken for multiculturalist practices, because Soviets watched sternly the boundaries remain intact.
     
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    Lol...So much ignorance in the first sentence.
    I guess that's why those collectivist Chinese are promoting cultural diversity in their country instead of sending their ethnic minorities to internment camps for free labor and brainwashing.
    I guess that's why the Russians are hellbent on wiping out any ethnic dissent and hounding anyone who is different.
    Do you know anything about what's going on in the world, kid?
     
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    LMAO...You polish turds for a pathological liar, serial adulterer, corrupt con artist. Don't be so quick to pat yourself on the back.
     

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