Medicare-for-all' means long waits for poor care, and Americans won't go for it once they learn thes

(Sorry, hit "quote" when I meant to hit reply. Italics is my response)

 

Just how much does it cost to spend a week in a hospital? And do you have insurance? If so....you don't pay medical bills either. It is about having insurance for all. I am willing to bet very few people can afford to pay their hospital bills without an insurance subsidy. Universal healthcare is just insurance.

 

Are you saying that a cell phone, car, a tv and food are extravagants that anyone can do without, still go to work and pay for healthcare ? Huh ?

 

Which is near impossible to do depending on where you live, your nutritional education and your finacial resources.

 

My suggestion was that people without insurance have little or nothing to complain about until they have given up their expensive habits, toys and vices. Then with the money they have saved they can buy insurance. If at that point they still can't afford it then come talk to me.

 

Where a person lives is a choice. Nutritional information is everywhere; all one has to do is read. Fix those two issues along with giving up a few vices and expensive toys and the financial resources problem will likely solve itself.

 

So, children raised with little nutritional skills should be denied healthxpcare as adults ? Often times the first nutritional information people get us through their healthcare provider. Countries with universal healthcare privide this service much more readily then ours. It saves money.

 

The gop has just provided an opportunity to not buy healthcare but toys instead in hopes no one in the family will need it.

 

None of that is a guarantee of good health. There are still accidents and heredity. Everyone needs affordable healthcare. The most affordable is through single payer universal HC. That’s not debatable. There are no legitimate studies that have shown Differently. I know it’s hard to understand how everyone can be insure cheaper then 80% of the population.....but it’s only hard to understand if you get your information from the profit makers.

 

Can you quote me denying that?

 

false spending increases the deficit.

I love how you want to make this more complicated than it is it shows that you're trying to be dishonest.

This is not a complicated economics theory and simple math. If you spend more money than you take in your spending too much. If you decide to take unless you must spend less.

he needs to cut spending as well.

 

Not exactly. But if you want to read it that way then, sure. I don't really care what others do as long as it doesn't effect me, my family and my money.

 

Show me where I said you are denying it. This symbol “?” Is a question mark. A question mark is used when someone asks a question. You get this, right? Please tell me you understand the difference between a statement and a question.

 

No. Not denied. They can pay for it just like me.

 

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Surprise, everyone does with universal healthcare. Why are you pretending other wise. Even Medicare recipients pay a monthly premium. You must be against healthcare for veterans as that’s the only “ free” healthcare not paid for by the recipient. Are you against it ?

 

Ironic

 

They do...everyone does. You just want every one pay billions a year xtra to insurance companies. You’re agausnt the free market system aren’t you. You’re against capitalism .

 

I am not debating whether or not single payer is affordable. It is likely very affordable to those who get it and pay nothing. I already have very affordable, high quality health care which will be adversely impacted by single payer. I am all for helping those who truly are unable to afford health care and it could be paid for by making all able bodied people get jobs. Get the slackers off the dole and there will be enough money going in to the system to provide care to those who actually do need it.

 

Well that is true. You need to be reasonably wealthy to buy processed foods. Poor people food (rice and beans) is much cheaper.

As for 'nutritional education', a child knows that vegetables are better than burgers. Eating unhealthy food isn't a function of low information (however you think it possible that there are adults alive in 2019 that don't know vegetables are better than burgers), it's a function of laziness and gluttony.

 

I'm all for universal healthcare (I've never known anything else, so perhaps my bias), but it's absurd to suggest that anyone over the age of 10 doesn't know that vegetables are good for you.

 

Enlighten us all with your wisdom. Who pays nothing for Medicare.....
And who will get Medicare for free ? Tell me the names of theses people. Identify them. Who are they. Be specific. I paid for decades into Medicare. Everyone I know is paying a monthly premium. Who is getting it for free ?

 

Who does the shopping and cooking ? Processed food and foods with preservatives are cheaper.

 

I guess you never head if high fructose corn syrup.