Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

No, the Vatican did not address Islam correctly.
And please tell us why the Pope did not tell the Christians their God wants them dead.
Do you really think the Pope studied Islam,
I'm sure he read the Qur'an, but you can't learn much about Islam by reading the Qur'an.

And he made a political move.
It's obvious you can't relate to that.

But you certainly cannot answer the questions.

 

Making up stuff again. I see.

There was more than 1 Muslim here.

I think most have me on Ignore, or just left the site.
I evaluated it before I posted anything, watching the Muslim threads.

 

Making up more stuff I see.

The Vatican, maybe not the Pope himself, but the scholars there know all about Christianity and Islam.

 

No clearly I cannot answer a question about what the Pope thinks or whether he studied Islam, I can however state what the Vatican and the Pope actually said. I leave the mind reading to you!

 

I provide the source you ignored it.

 

I thought it did not matter to you, you ran away from my challenge I expected nothing more.

 

I'll give you another example of the Vatican soothing the waves.
There is a city block in Istanbul, formally Constantinople, that is an entire Catholic church.
Constantinople used to be the eastern head of the Catholic church.

They have on the wall inside, a full page letter, from Muhammed himself, giving the church permission for all time, to exist there.
They are protected by Muhammed himself, and the only reason they are still there today.

The Church, and the Vatican will swear this letter is authentic.

Unfortunately anyone who studied Islam knows Muhammed was illiterate, and could not have written anything.
Also the time line puts the letter at least hundreds of years after Muhammeds death.

The church refuses to have it carbon-14 tested.

It is their meal ticket, and they want it to stay that way.

 

Because I was curious when I joined the site.
and your challenge is stupid.
How are the mods supposed to know what religion people are.
Are they going to come to my house, and yours,

But typical of your rebuttals.

 

I didn't ignore it.
I saw it, I don't agree with it.
and I proved why, and you refused to respond.
so you fail.

 

You are making a irrelevent argument. Violence is not religion based until people are radicalized by physical and economic attacks. Once people have already picked up the flag of war, they may use religion to support their position, but it was not religion that caused the radicalization to begin with.

 

Yes typical of my rebuttals, I suggest proving something with facts, you deflect deflect deflect!

 

No, you proved nothing other than you THINK you know the minds of the pope and the Vatican. That is the crunch, somebody on an internet forum claims he knows more about Christianity than the Pope and the Vatican! That is it!

 

Actually it is a very valid and real argument.
The entire religion of Islam, with little exceptions is how they are going to kill everyone else.
Muhammed was a murderer, rapist, thief, slave trader sexual pervert, and it is written very graphically in volumes of writings.

You have in the messenger a beautiful pattern of conduct to follow. ( Qur'an)

You can't make an argument here, you don't know anything about the religion.

 

I know all religion is false, and man made. I know the average person regardless of religion is not a fanatic and regards religion as a minor issue compared to their economic well being, health, and the future of their children. I know the miniscule fraction of religious fanatics that do exist are mentally and phycologically damaged and the world would be better off without them.

 

I partially agree with the statement that all religion is false, man made.

However it is the content of the man made religion being called out here.

If I write one religion that tells you to love everyone.

And I write another that tells you to kill everyone.

Both have 1 billion members.

Which one do you think will commit more murders.

 

Neither religion tells anyone to kill anyone. One religion tells you to only kill the attackers if you are attacked. As usual you have no clue about any religion. You were burnt by the other poster who proved you wrong showing that all Abrahamic religions have the same god - but hey, you know more about Christianity than the pope and the Vatican

 

Hell, you sound like the same person with another profile.
Nobody could read the comments and agree with that.

Sahih International: And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that speak of war with nonbelievers, usually on the basis of their status as non-Muslims. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.


I want to point out, this is just the Qur'an, there are hundreds more in the Sunnah.

 

sorry, I already moved on.... if I mis-replied to your post I apologize

 

You are so ignorant and paranoid!
Preceding verse "......But if they return [to hostility]....." then your verse (39)

Do you know the meaning of " return to hostility"? Do you know the definition of the word "return"? Do you know the definition of the word "hostility"?

No one has disappeared and your paranoia makes you believe that everyone who points out your obvious lack of knowledge must be a Muslim

No, most people don't have you on ignore, they can't be bothered with you because you are a parrot who bores everyone

 

Sahih International
Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] - then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place.

so you are going to try to pick out one verse in a play on words, and think that applies to hundreds of verses.
PS, Another one you can try is the word "Virgins", it also means grapes, raisins, and pearls.

Here is one for you.
Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country..
How do you interpret that one.
I interpret it to mean, Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.
What do you..
Now if you want, I can put that verse into it's correct context, for a better understanding of it.

 

You couldn't write me the list I asked for. So how exactly does it put Christianity in an equally bad light is any other religion?

 

No worries.

 

Since you're so obsessed with racist hate in religion, you'll just love your own Talmud.

Ever heard of it?

"CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY"

http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter15.htm

EXCERPT

IV. LASTLY, ALL CHRISTIANS, INCLUDING THE BEST OF THEM, ARE TO BE KILLED

In Abhodah Zarah (26b, Tosephoth) it says:

"Even the best of the Goim should be killed"

V. A JEW WHO KILLS A CHRISTIAN COMMITS NO SIN, BUT OFFERS AN ACCEPTABLE SACRIFICE TO GOD

In Sepher Or Israel (177b) it says:

"Take the life of the Kliphoth and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him."

And in Ialkut Simoni (245c. n. 772) it says:

"Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God." CONTINUED


I guess that any Christian who happens to be "impious" had better be careful around Talmudists.

 

Sahih International: And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah."

That does not say anything about stop fighting for any reason other than until everyone is Muslim.

BTW, this comes up a lot in the writings, so you can't pick apart a single verse like most Muslims attempt to do.

Islam is, "The religion of peace", what they don't tell you, is that the peace comes after they kill everyone else,
and the whole world is islam.

But wait, a monkey wrench. some will not be killed, but rather be Dhimines, or slaves.

But wait, another monkey wrench, is the different sects that are killing each other.
One sect has to kill all the others.

Ah yes, then we can have peace.

 

I don't have a Talmud, ( actually I do, but never read it), and I really don't care what it says.
Keep in mind, most of the Talmud was written when the Romans and the good Christians were slaughtering the Jews,
so they write some nasty things about them, Hell, I would too.
and Islam is not a race.
Seems you have quite an imagination.
The thread is that Islam is the most violent.
Not the only one with violence,
The most violent.