Are revolvers the most reviled of firearms available?

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You’re not actually buying that they have not are you.
     
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    They are the highest of the industrialized countries in the world. Are you saying we’re moving up because we have 200 million more guns. With all those guns are you saying we should be the safest nation ? Ha ha...
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    I'm not buying that the 30 million that the NRA put into the election to stop anti-2A Hillary came from Russia. Remember, I didn't vote for president in 2016. I also don't think anything the Russians did had anything to do with the support for the Republican candidate that came from the NRA. When is the last time the NRA failed to support the Republican presidential candidate or gave any support at all to the Democratic presidential candidate?
     
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    You live a sheltered life.
     
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm saying that we have more guns and a lower homicide rate than we did in 1989.
     
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    And still, it’s the highest in the industrialized world. It’s the uninformed contention then that increasing the number of guns would eventually bring us fewer deaths then anyone else ?
    The reduction of gun deaths has more to do with increased science used in law enfircement and getting more habitual criminals off the street .
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3089690-police-lab

    It’s happening in spite of more guns...not because of them.
     
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    Hasn't it always been?

    I don't know anyone that's made that claim. You can't compare the US to any other country.
    There is no alternative to "more guns", anyway. We'll keep making them and buying them.

    I never claimed a causal effect, but when you say "more guns = more deaths", it's not true. We have 200 million more guns since 1989 and the homicide has dropped precipitously since then. In fact, our homicide rate has fallen by about the same rate as Australia and UK while adding more guns than the rest of the world owns. How gun the increased science didn't accelerate the decline in homicides in those two countries?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    And what sway does any foreign contributor to the NRA? What policy decisions have resulted from such a contribution? Be specific. What policies has Trump made to support Russia that you can substantiate? Mueller’s team, searching for two years to find evidence of this nature would love to see your evidence.
    As for the Clintons, when did I post anything related to it being ok with “selling yellow cake or whatever crappola you were making up.” Quite dishonest of you such a conversation never happened with you or anyone else. You just made that up.
    If we follow your line of thinking, all politicians are ‘owned’ by those that contribute to them. So, considering the contributions of the Health industry disproportionally go to Democrat’s, it’s easy to understand how Obama care was pushed through with almost no GOP support.
    https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?Ind=H
    Since you brought up Clinton, who owns her?
    https://dmlnews.com/eye-opening-list-donors-clinton-foundation-list/

    BTW, funneling funds through an organization to be used for domestic campaign contributions is illegal. While the spurious allegations has been made the NRA did that, there has been no proof and no indictments, despite intense scrutiny by Dems.
    Here’s a summary for 2016
    https://www.guns.com/news/2017/05/05/nra-revenue-expenses-in-2016
    Here’s the detail
    https://www.nrafoundation.org/media/2082/16nrafannualreportweb1.pdf
    While you are at it reveal how the NRA hid contributions from Russia and used them for illegal campaign contributions.

    I am by the way, shaking with anticipation of Mueller’s report that will show Trump as a Putin spy... or is the allegation, his lover.
     
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    For one. Trump publicly believes Putin that No Korea does not have long Range missles over our own intel and Russians had no involvement in the election over our own sources. That’s rediculous. He then tries to lift sanctions in Russia, .
     
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    The nra is a money conduit, not information...they aren’t that bright.
     
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    Trump is an idiot. I'm not denying that.
     
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    Gosh, then the forensic accountants should find the evidence in no time.
     
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    And that proves what?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Conduit to where? And, where is any evidence of law breaking?

    And, where is the evidence of a post by me saying I was ok with Clinton and yellow cake deals? Or, do you just like to throw out unfounded spurious trash?
     
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    Trump isn’t just an idiot, he literally drags everyone to his own level. Funding Trump to the tune of 30 million in a national election, regardless of their support motivation, is exposing the NRA to the same Russian involvement that Trump has had for decades.
     
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    That part of campaign financing is unregulated. That’s the intent of citizens united. The obvious is True. There is no reason for the NRA to be involved with a totalitarian nation that highly regulates firearms other then as a financial conduit. That is being exposed. The nra admits it relieves foriegn donations but claims none goes to election donations..... huh ? How does that work ? All donations any PAC receives helps fund ANY endeavor a PAC like the NRA engages in.
    https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597279176/nra-says-it-receives-foreign-funds-but-none-goes-to-election-working

    If your in laws paid off your house mortgage for you, wouldn’t that help fund your next car purchase ? Of course. The NRA is rediculous and yes, they funnel millions into GOP through the help of foreign donations.
     
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    Nothing to you. Blinders work that way.
     
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    It came from non-tax deductible contributions by membership which by the way any amount over $500 has to be reported to the FEC with the donors name attached, which is there was any Russian involvement would have been smoked out by media in a heartbeat.

    As such it's a BS story made up by the MSN.
     
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    Once again totally incorrect, the NRA-ILA didn't donate a dime to the Trump campaign and only contributed $8,778,708 for pro-Trump advertising.

    Trump, Donald R President $8,778,708 $8,778,708 $0 Winner

    https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/recips.php?cmte=C90013301&cycle=2016

    And lets not forget who was in charge of the government when the Russians supposedly meddled in the elections, that would be Barack Obama, so if the Russians did meddle in the election it would be Obama's fault not Trumps. .
     
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    There is no analog between motor vehicle regulations, and firearm-related restrictions. Continuing the compare the two to one another serves no legitimate point. And referring to those who disagree with the position of yourself as firearm cultists demonstrates an absence of legitimacy, as it is nothing more than a symptom is aggression at being rebuked by those who actually have a concept of what they are referring to.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    To what extent do the two coincide with one another? Elaborate on such and explain the matte to demonstrate such.

    To believe such nonsense, it would first be required to believe that an individual does not purchase a firearm until they are struck by the impulse to end their own existence. But such does not actually exist or occur, as has been demonstrated hundreds of millions of times so far.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Cite a point of time in the history of the united states where such was not the case.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    then cite the confirmed evidence the proves the above claim is factually accurate. Merely claiming the notion is real is not proof.
     
  24. dagosa

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    That’s a diversionary question. Unlike you, I don’t live in the past. We know now, that countries and states with stronger gun laws, have on average, less gun violence. I’ve given the stats.. Show your own that refutes it......for the umpteenth time, you fail to do so.
     
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    Nope. Play your own games.
     

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