Yet another women accuses Trump of unwanted sexual advances--this time, it's a campaign staffer

Meh, her two alleged witnesses say they didn't see anything.

 

Actually as you Democrats (if you are not a democrat, then change it to Trump hater) defended Clinton with, it was with consenting adults. Trump never took advantage given the women consented and were adults.

 

Three witnesses.

 

I would think the answer fairly obvious. Because the slave does not have the option to say NO.

 

I've never defended Clinton. Trump hater is definitely more apt a description than Democrat, although the utter lunacy of what passes for Republican in the age of Trump is certainly moving me that way.

 

I am not reduced to Trump hate even though the Media fights furiously to drive our citizens in that direction. Trump is hated in about 90 percent of all articles in the media about him.

How can a man who crafted a law to relieve so many millions of tax burdens be so hated? How can a man working hard to get to global peace be so hated. Japan nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace prize. How can a man who has done good for this country be so hated?

He could have put Mexico first. He might have put Canada first or England or Germany or Spain. But he put America first.

 

100%.

 

Since my first post on this, I decided to aim my research at this topic.
I can see that the number of slaves brought to the USA in grand total was but 350,000. While that may look enormous, it is about 100,000 more than living in my city. And my city is called a small community. And those 350,000 had to cover the north slaves along with those in the South. I believe that it was into the North that saw most slaves arriving in the USA. The vast majority of slaves taken from Africa were deposited in the Caribbean and Brazil.

Common folk lore is they came to the continental US but that is wrong.

So how can a plantation increase a working force and not get them by ship?

Breeding is one way.

Stories of white men breeding black women are more common in folklore than in history. It is entirely possible that the black male slaves were freely breeding the black women slaves.

A story used as proof of the lousy white man was on one site and the story is of a 13 year old black girl found having sex with her master in the home parlor. The white wife was running around looking for the 13 year old child and found her breeding her husband. Naturally the story says he ran out of the house mounted his horse and rushed off. She beat the black child for 2 weeks in the story. The story makes no mention of her with child so probably she did not get pregnant.

But what are called anecdotal evidence pretty much is what we have. And not a hell of a lot of that to boot.

As evolution proves, changes happen due to things such as blacks turning lighter by being in North America. (this is my attempt at humor)

 

The articles I read just report the facts about Trump, and the facts are never kind to him, and he whines and cries about it because he's a big reactionary baby.

Your rhetorical questions show that you read or otherwise consume pro-Trump propaganda, not the news. He never crafted a tax law, but he did sign one that benefited the wealthy who were already under no great burden, not 'millions' of ordinary people who were, and he is adding massively to the national debt in the process, helping NO ONE and harming the country just to benefit himself. He asked the Japanese for a Nobel Peace Prize nomination before getting it He has done no good whatsoever for this country, but he sure is harming it.

And he puts himself first. Always has. He is harming our country by his selfishness, his destructive lies and proclamations, his refusal to acknowledge and address external threats to our national security and our way of life, his self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement, his direct and sustained attacks on our democratic institutions, his daily lies that continue to lead people like you down a dark path of wilful ignorance and hatred of your own countrymen. I want to see the left-right divide done away with and a return to centrism and reason in our politics, an end to the infighting and the disinformation coming from the alt-right and its new populist leader, a natural dictator who despises our system of government in part because he doesn't even understand it, and in part because it opposes him personally as it must do.

 

Conservative southerners are in which party today?

 

So many liars!

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

 

I understand he's up in Chicago dealing with R. Kelly... but I bet he finds time to watch Cohen under oath tomorrow..

 

If the media is totally truth telling, why did the media beat the war drums against Saddam Hussein while Clinton was the president, keep beating them until finally Bush actually invaded, keep from us the report by General Sada (I own the book) that Tells how Saddam exported his WMD then?
I found out about Sada through the internet of all places.

All the while trying to beat up on GW Bush. Americans today still think (thanks to the media) that Bush stated Saddam had Nuclear bombs when he had none) Bush never stated Saddam had them. HE called Saddam a grave gathering danger. i have quotes and video to prove this.

But the media has beat up on Trump and no it is not riddled with facts. Nothing Trump says is called truth by the media. Nothing at all.

 

What makes you think of the Southerners as modern Conservatives?

 

Why the hell did the Democrats resort to secret hearings of a criminal?

 

So now you are blaming the media for Bush Jr.'s invasion of Iraq? Yeah, like I said, you don't even consume news, but opt for some kind of ridiculous disinformation in its stead. Clearly.

I wish I could evaluate Trump purely on his policies and accomplishments in office. He would be a very mediocre president, but not a terrible one, if not for all of the lies and other destructive behavior on his part.

 

There was a lot in your post but I think basically it boils down to this. You believe there is not a lot of evidence that slave owners had sex with their slave.

You are trying to treat this is a logical manner which I appreciate. You cited a few numbers, a few claims and even admit it is quite possible that slave owners had sex with their slaves. What it came down to for you is you did not find an overwhelming amount of evidence it took place beyond some rare instances. I think this is where your argument suffers. How much evidence is there that people had sex outside of marriage or with people they were not married too. There may be a few written accounts and some gossipy type claims but lets take a ratio of those accounts over the total number of times people had sex before they were married or with people they were not married too. Given the fact that these events happened 150 years ago and there is very little reason to document and record this I would expect this ratio to be extremely small. If this number is small can we assume that it did not happen or rarely happened? This is the type of argument you are making.

 

I never believed that Obama self nominated himself for the nobel prize, but of course he had asked the person that submitted it to submit his name. We can be 100 percent certain since Obama had not so much as taken office when that nomination was assured. I call that the boner of the nobel peace prize committee. They got more wars from Obama than they saw from GW Bush.

 

I posted "conservative southerners", my dyslexic amigo.

Which party are they affiliated with? Think hard.

 

Definitely not. I am saying that all during the Clinton two terms, he waged war on Saddam. Did you forget all about our war planes flying daily runs over Iraq? Did you just ignore his missles hitting targets in Iraq? Did you miss the Clinton law declaring Saddam must be removed from Iraq?

I recall this vividly. i used to argue on a forum that if Clinton persisted in his attacks, best thing was to invade Iraq and get rid of Saddam permanently.

Bush of course did just that.

I put little stock in things the media says bad about Trump. They have a lousy reputation and look at their approval poll numbers. Truly lousy.

 

No, what was conservative about those in the South in 1861? How does that relate to republicans of now?

At the time the South wanted the constitution upheld as to Slavery.

We republicans never wanted slavery. We do not now nor then. So what do you mean?

 

I'd be lying if I said that made any sense.. Want to try again?

 

Your argument is a joy to read. At least you come at this using common sense plus logic. And apply it correctly.

I believe by the fundamental changes to a lot of blacks, slimmer noses, lighter skin color, some with blue eyes and more, that clearly whites were having sex with blacks. But there were also a lot of free blacks. Free blacks owned slaves.

We are presuming and with next to no evidence, that it was common that black slave women were raped by white owners.

I was fighting with my reading of one article that spoke of the rage of the white wife. ( This was the given evidence of a black slave having sex with her master)

Think about her rage. Why would the white wife be enraged if it was common for white men to rape black slaves?

Seems if it was common place, wives would be conditioned to not see this as infidelity. The white woman in question beat the hell out of the slave girl.

The article did not even say why she got beat if it was so common for it to be done.

Then you have the white master busting ass to escape. He had to believe it was wrong. But this was their evidence.

I read the book by the slave Douglas too and do recall him talking of this a small bit.

About the Douglas slave reports.

https://www.shmoop.com/life-of-frederick-douglass/sex-rating.html

 

Baby steps
1. Cohen is a convicted criminal
2. Democrats drug him to their hearing that is closed and not open to the public.

Conclusion. Democrats get to leave the hearing making any statement they so desire and presume nobody will question them.

 

I am a republican. I reformed from the Democrats. i spent my pre middle age as a loyal Democrat. I would expect that up to around 1978, you and i would totally agree.

I still do not understand what i was as a very loyal Democrat that would persuade me to move from your version of liberal to conservative?

My changing of parties has the root cause of the book A Time for Truth , by William E. Simon. William opened my eyes to the real Washington DC and the two parties.

I was not happy with merely that book. i thought when i first picked it up he was going to praise Democrats and blast the hell out of republicans. Before i caught on, I was so deep in his book I simply kept reading.

Still that was not going to force me from a loyal Democrat to the republican camp.

I then decided to check with the founders to explore more of the founding.

Did they truly screw the pooch by forming the wrong government????

If they formed the wrong government, what was wrong? Why did Democrats set out in 1933 to radically change the nature of Government?

Think about that?

What did the founders do so wrong that it took FDR to raise his fist to them and shake their government from the tree and down to the ground and smite it?

This nations pre 1933 government does not actually resemble today's government. not with all the laws passed by Democrats.

Laws are needed.

I and you will admit that much.

We are not children, we are adults?

Do we both admit that?

Why did Democrats vastly change the nature of Government?

Can you explain why the government of 1910 was a particular way but today so much different that it is not recognizable now from the founding ways?