Active shooter at CA food festival.

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    its probably not a pure racial supremacy thing.
     
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    Maybe not. Never claimed it was. Though I can tell you from experience that white nationalists have no problem insulting other whites that they see as race traitors, so the "white *****" line doesn't tell us much.
     
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    True but they mainly want MORE white people in a given area, not less people entirely which the quote in question outright demands. He doesn't even use a slur for hispanics there, he calls them meztizos a term from the caste system the spaniards derived.

    the book he quotes is anarchist in nature. a number of his other comments seem to indicate a lack of enthusiasm or kindness for commerce in 'his' area.
    Maybe he was trying to **** with the festival because he finds it a greedy commercial enterprise?
    Seems more likely than any group of white supremacists accepting an italian/iranian to radicalize him. Yes, both those groups are "white" according to the census, but according to supremacists they aren't.
     
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    Depends on the white supremacists. Neo-nazis, for example, generally accept Iranians as Aryan, as did the original Nazis. And I agree that the white supremacist elements of the book don't mean that he was a white supremacist or that his motive was white supremacism. We are on the same page there.
     
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    "Silicon Valley white *****” isn't referring to white valley girls. It is referring to white people who he considered as stupid, irritating, annoying etc. The word "twa**" is a common word in many English speaking countries esp the UK. Little doubt that he blamed the silicon valley white ***** for allowing all the Mexicans in
     
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    These shooters will not stop. This shooter knew the place had a heavy police presence.
     
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    Sobo (a poster fom Germany in this forum) acknowledges that he supports white supremacy, is far right and supports some Nazi beliefs and also accepts Iranians as Aryan
     
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    Yeah, if you are going to link white nationalism to any kind of Aryan theory, you really have no choice but to include Iranians. They're, literally speaking, about as ethnically Aryan as you can get.
     
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    Victims aged 6, 13, and "in his 20s," and one dead 19-year-old shooter.

    Isn't gun freedumb great?
     
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    No.

    Nearly all mass shooters have histories of violence that preclude them from having firearms. Thanks to government incompetence, they obtain them anyway.

    This shooter was 19. If he purchased that firearm this year, he acquired it illegally since you're required to be 21 in CA.

    It's also illegal to have 30 round mags. Also illegal to be able to remove a magazine without a tool, which prohibits fast reloading.

    Seems this guy had no use for the law.

    Oh and yeah, still illegal to commit mass murder I think.
     
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    Tell us again how CA's gun laws didn't stop this shooting?
     
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    So?

    Since 1985 (the last 34 years):

    154 People (including 8 gunmen) have been killed in 34 incidents.

    146 innocent Victims (in 34 incidents).

    An average of 4.3/Per incident.

    And, the Worst Single Death Toll was 15 (in 1989, 30 Years Ago).

    In the USA, Just since 2016:

    There have been 374 left Dead in Mass Shootings.

    The Worst Single Death Tolls being 59 in 2017, and 50 in 2016.


    In other words, your epically misguided attempt to draw a False Equivalency FAILS Miserably.

    Better luck next time.:salute:
     
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    I agree it is appalling that many Australians here worry so much about the United States when there is so much more work to be done, to saving children in their country.
     
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    The answer is the one shooting indiscriminately into the crowd wearing Rainbow Six clothes.
     
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    The one that's shooting indiscriminately into the crowd.
     
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    Except for the part where Canada's population is 1/10th of the US as a whole, and they have as many mass shootings as CA, which has roughly the same population.

    Better luck next time. :salute:
     
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    A lot of people have a lot of things to say about a situation they know little about.
     
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    Math and logic is wasted on a liberal. The only time percentages matter to a lib is when they are taking about diversity in a work place are what ever.
     
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    German neo nazis might, but I'm talking the American white supremacist WASP type.
    The "they're the mud people from the bible. " sort.
    I've yet to encounter one who doesnt get purple at the idea of da*os and "towel *****" being white.
    You should try telling one, it's funny as hell most times
     
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    Or it might be an indicator that it wasnt necessarily about race or all about race.
     
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    The Aryan-theorist types, such as Nazis and neo-Nazis generally accept them as Aryan because, well, they are. That's even where the word "Iran" comes from. Regardless, even if that weren't the case, it isn't like we've never seen a self-hating, mixed ethnicity white supremacist. Hell, there's a good chance even Hitler was one of them.
     
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    Yes but it's not wasted on logical people, who are my actual audience.
     
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