Turkey set to invade northern Syria, White House says, raising concerns for Kurdish fighters

And there would be less if Syria was stabilized, which with us not there is much more likely (we were arming extremist terrorist rebels). It's in our interest for more than one reason, to get out and let the sovereign government of Syria govern. It's much more likely we caused more deaths by intervening not less, and it's all just as likely who ever we supported to take over once Assad was out of the picture would be even worse. I seriously do not understand how people don't learn. Interventionist wars do not work. It's been proven, over and over again.

You also didn't answer the question.

 

We have no control over the situation either way.. and the refugees probably won't ever go home.

 

No, we don't, which is my point.

 

Syria has always had sectarian strife.... Bashar's father just slaughtered them.

 

Dictators will be dictators. Democracy cannot be forced. The middle east is a lost cause.

 

Syria has always been a mess.. so many military coups and assassinations.

 

The whole region is awash in tribal, religious, or ethnic sectarianism. It can only be stabilized by genocide or a strong man authoritarian.

 

You spent time in the Middle East?

 

Do you dispute it? All you need to do is have a knowledge of history to know that's how it is. Look what happened in Yugoslavia when Tito died, same thing. Of course there are some areas that are relatively peaceful, but that is the exception.

 

It depends on the country. The countries in the ME that were colonies have had the most instability.

 

That is true, borders were drawn by the ex-colonists with no thought to ethnic or religious concerns.

 

The British took advantage of Iran and gassed Iraqis and Kurds in the 1920s.. It was not a good model..

 

So who are the "Kurds"? In Iranian tradition, they are simply one of several Iranian nomadic tribes - their name deriving from the middle Persian name for nomads more generally. They speak an Iranian language related to Persian; they celebrate the ancient Iranian holiday, Norouz, which to this day marks the beginning of the New Year in the Iranian calendar and is our most important holiday.

The fact, however, that much of the lands inhabited by the Kurds came under the rule of the Sunni Ottoman empire and outside of the realm of the Shia Safavid empire in Iran, and the fact that the Kurds -- being nomadic -- didn't follow as closely the emerging Iranian urban culture dominated by Persian and subsequently the rallying behind the Shia banner of Islam, kept them distinguishable from the rest of their closest kin in the Iranian plateau.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Kurds
Origin of the Kurds

 

Yep ..The Kurds were nomadic most of their history.. That's why there were Kurds all over the place.. including Russia.

Kurds in Russia form a historically significant part of the Kurdish diaspora, with close ties to the Kurdish communities in the Caucasus and Central Asia. The 2010 Russian census registered a total of 63,818 ethnic Kurds living in Russia.
Kurds in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Russia

 

Syria’s government is a dictatorship; dictators have no rights. They’re evil tyrants. They need to be destroyed. The sooner, the better.

 

Analysis: President Trump hands over northern Syria to Turkey
https://abcnews.go.com/International/analysis-president-trump-hands-northern-syria...
For Donald Trump to hand the fate of Syria's Kurds over to their sworn enemy Turkey not only represents a major disservice to the people who did more to defeat ISIS in Syria than anyone else, but it also sends an ominous message to any group who would ever consider allying themselves to the United States in the future.

 

Count for me how many dictatorships there are currently in the world, your plan for their removal and your plan for how everything is going to be "happily every after" after they are gone and replaced by another government, cough dictator. Then let me know how many civilians you have killed in the process and how you aren't a hypocrite after the fact.

 

By any rational means available.

 

So you can't can you?

 

So, we should just let the turks perform another genocide?

 

None of 'your' business. 'You' did not go to Rwanda et al in Africa, so......'we' all know why 'you' get needy about the ME.......oil. If that was not there, 'you' could not care less. Over here, we are doing all we can to be renewable reliant. If we don't stuff it up, we will, soon enough, power south east Asia with a power line under the sea into Indonesia and on. Solar.

 

Kick the turks out of NATO. Otherwise, it's none of our business, and doesn't serve America. We need to work on being self sufficient and stop caring so much about ME oil.

 

No oil in Syria or Turkey ….

 

OH NO! I'm in California!

 

I am not sure we shouldn't have gone to Rwanda.
I don't have great answers for any of this as war is never a great answer but sometimes therr is no grest answer, only doing the best you can do.
Sitting on our hands and letting Turkey exterminate the Kurds a great answers?

What does that say to the next guy?