Nikki Haley says Trump was always "truthful"

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  1. Shook

    Shook Well-Known Member

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    Let me remind you whiners that Trump has accomplished more in his first year than Obama fouled up in his 8 years.

    I'm so sorry, but you seem ... deluded, frankly.

    Bolsheviks were deluded too, if that makes you feel any better.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is indicative
    So trump was foolishly unaware of this reality?
    Because .... if it is true that even a republican senate and house would not do this....then it is foolish to make that claim
    my recollection is that such excuses were not accepted when Obama was president
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is something about trump that is perplexing
    In the same way it is perplexing that so many people will seriously claim the earth is flat..... a claim that also makes no sense

    does it make sense to claim Mexico will pay for the wall?
    Does it make sense to claim you will pay off the national debt?
     
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    As you know, the best weather forecasters are often wrong. Why you would twist that fact into an accusation that Trump is a liar is deplorably cheap and disgusting.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Let me remind you that Trump supporters can never actually defend Trump on his own merits or defend him against the fact that he constantly lies and instead are stuck with scrambling to change the subject every time it comes up.

    Objective observer: "Trump lies."
    Trump supporter: *Unable to come up with a legitimate response* "Um . . . Obama! Um . . . something, something, Communismmmmmmmn!!!!!!!"

    This, by the way, is what actual delusion looks like.
     
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    I like Haley, she generally speaks quite direct and is open about her opinions.

    I happen to agree with her assessment of the impeachment thing and the phone call.

    Those that disagree have likely disagreed with me (or Haley) about everything Trump does including his choice of boxers or briefs so.... basically this is the same issue over and over.

    The dem's barking about the "wall" would be preaching the need for the wall if it was a Clinton suggestion. But they lost the election so they disagree, vehemently.

    The dem's barking about the "tax cuts for the rich" and "crumbs" would be praising it if it was a Clinton suggestion.

    I could go on for 10 pages with examples, but anybody that is a hardcore anti-trumper would still disagree so I won't bother wasting my time.

    Summary:
    Haley comes across as genuine and truthful, she's ok in my book, so if this is her opinion, I believe it to be an accurate and truthful one.
     
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    Indicative? Of what? You didn't -- or couldn't, I suppose, finish your sentence.

    You're losing cogency.

    No idea what you're talking about.
     
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    World respect is only possible once self respect is achieved. Americans are not willing to have respectful discussions with those they disagree with. If we can't respect each other, how can anyone else? If Americans united against the debt, irresponsible spending, and actually held our government accountable, we could make a difference. Instead, we attack each other while the government spends the money our great grandchildren haven't earned yet.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Here's a short list of Trump's accomplishments:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

    By the way, this list is for his first 20 months, so he's way down the road now.

    In the same amount of time, Obama had armed drug cartels in Mexico and was plotting to force his totally unConstitutional health care edicts on Americans for the purpose of enormous, unprecedented theft, and so forth, while everyone democrat awed at the PC of his skin color without a care in their little heads about the destruction they were allowing.

    Wow.
     
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    No number of "accomplishments" will change the fact he is a serial liar. When you are able to address the topic, we can move on to the "accomplishments." (Hint: I'm reading through the bullet points and most can be debunked by anyone capable of reading a graph and understanding what a trend line is)
     
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    Wow.[/QUOTE]
    But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but Obama.......guys, talk about Obama and not Trump.....
     
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    You mean, perplexing as in, why would democrat deep staters set him up like that for no apparent reaspm? Because they're ****ing stupid, I guess.

    Congress has gone totally outlaw rogue in thwarting his attempts at progress with Mexico and other matters. If they fail in their obvious coup attempt, a good number of them will probably go to prison.
     
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    LOL. Don't blow an artery.
     
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    out of curiosity.... how and why do you think that magic marker addition got on the map.... without trump knowing about it?
     
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    That is so made up.
     
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    Having the facts on your side isn't particularly stressful, but I guess the chances of me getting high blood pressure one day are higher than the chances that you'll ever address the topic.
     
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    She is playing full on politics right now. Stevie Wonder can see that.

    She is trying to set herself up politically, and save herself from trumps wrath. The right has become the party of Trump, and she knows it. She is playing for a seat at the table in the near future. She will never be president tho
     
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    I see some of Trump's most important accomplishments to date as his undoing the garbage Obama dictated. You can't really disassociate Trump's achievements from that POS that preceded him, now can you? About all you can really do is whine and snivel. LOL.
     
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    Trump has kept just about all of his campaign promises.

    Meanwhile the Dems have claimed that the tax cuts did nothing for the lower end of the taxpayer rolls.

    When people can actually see a difference, it matters.
    In contrast, people never saw the $2,500 savings that they were assured would be a residual benefit of Obamcare.
     
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    Trump is, perhaps, the least truthful person in politics, and that's saying something. His "gafs" include lying, cheating, and stealing. He is the penultimate snake oil salesman. Ask the students of his fake university.
     
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    You must be 15 and took your first civics class......
     
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    Do you mean "speculative"? If you did, then say, "that is so speculative." That's true, but there is a lot of speculation about it, and democrats in congress are pissing themselves about it.
     
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    It proves you can write?
     
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    Politics? That pit has no bottom.
     
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    You make some extremely valid points. The biggest issue on the table is the USMCA which is going to end up severely danaging the Democrat Party if it is not voted on.

    Trump's approval rating among Republicans is now well above 90%. Independents are now at the 58% level.

    Pelosi is evidently being challenged in her district primary. Deuces wild... Schiff and Nadler are both poor examples of public access window dressing in the House showcase hearings.

    The 2020 election is going to be an interesting reflection of the present contrasts.
     
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