Coronavirus: Five more states report cases, as Trump claims virus has been ‘stopped’ and

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    corona will probably be coming back year after year going forward, as it mutates, some years could be worse than others

    we will depend on the experts for antivirals and treatments...

    the real concern now is that we slow the spread so as not to overwhelm the medical community and disrupt society until we can develop a vax
     
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    So you think the mortality rate is actually much lower because people who have the illness just do not want to be tested for the illness.

    The amount of denial you need to avoid criticizing Trump is really astounding.
     
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    people want it and can't get it, saying anyone that wants it could get it was a lie by Trump

    that said, not everyone that wants it should be able to get it, because it's in short supply, doctors that feel their patients need it, should be able to get it, not just everyone that thinks they need it
     
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    Who wants it and can't get the test? Have you gone to your doctors office looking for one and turned away?
     
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    exactly, many that have died have not been autopsied yet, and may never be, could just be flagged as the common cold

    but the point is, Trump made this an issue for himself, had he just deferred to the experts rather then trying to mislead the people, he would have been fine

    Trump tried to act like the expert and take credit for solving the issue, then gets upset when he later gets criticized over giving out false information
     
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    Because physician's don't have freedom of speech or expert knowledge of communicable diseases?
     
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    Freedom of Speech protects him from being jailed. Not from being sued because he creates unsafe medical conditions in his own office.
     
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    You don't know? Only follow what a lawyer says when it comes to your health! You know... Lawyer never, ever make **** up as they go along!
     
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    You are asking the wrong question. You should be asking why doesn't everyone agree that the test is perfect?

    After all, Trump said it was "perfect, just like the transcription was perfect. Well...maybe not as perfect [as the phone call that got him impeached], but pretty close"
     
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    I believe you were referring to fetuses. We can agree that abortion is wrong, but that doesn't excuse government involvement. I was born because I was wanted. There are thousands of unwanted children that will never see the inside of a permanent, loving home. You would make a difference if you wanted to.
     
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    I didn't know folks that it was imperfect
     
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    I don't like Trump and hate that he is an accurate reflection of the average American. I just don't understand your desire to be like him.
     
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    try to get the test today and let us know how it goes

    there is not enough tests, and the doctors are not gonna go through the hoops to get one just cause you want one, if everyone that wanted one could get one, we woudl be out of tests for those that need them
     
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    This sounds like a new trail for the ACLU to test its claws on. LOL
     
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    they are responsible for their actions, if they are using their license and credentials to give out false information that could harm their patients, yes, that could lose them their license, if someone dies or is injured from that false information, they could be sued

    what if a doctor put up a sign in their office saying if you have corona, go to a shopping mall and walk for a couple of hours a day there as it will improve your circulation as their advice? Freedom of speech?
     
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    Why? I don't need it...
     
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    of course if it was perfect, they would not of had to come up with a new test, but does it surprise anyone Trump is declaring it perfect and comparing it to the Ukraine call?
     
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    Oh yeah sure. Lack of testing, that's exactly why we're the lowest. Go sell that bullshit to a dumbass.
     
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    60 almost 70 years old. So what are you going to do to keep yourself and your family safe?
     
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    if we had free drive through testing, we would see the rate go up dramatically, to deny that defies common sense - on the flip side the death rate would go down percentage wise

    that said, most will survive it just fine, seems to be those with underlying medical conditions that are most at risk for most serious effects of the disease
     
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    No, we are at the lowest in terms of total population infected, per million, is three fold.

    1) The first confirmed person to person infection is ~8 days old.
    2) The country is fairly spread out across a large geographical area.
    3) There are not enough tests to accurately gauge the total number infected.
     
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    It's kinda like Katrina. I had damage, but not catastrophic damage, and so I waited six weeks to call my insurance adjuster so those who were really hurting bad could go to the front of the line. The adjuster appreciated it. So I'm not going to no doctor to get no test having no symptoms when others have a direct need.

    We had water whenever I hooked the generator to the well and filled the blue cans. We had a large cache of food stocked in. We had a comfortable stand-up-in tent and comfortable cots. We had generator electricity on demand. We could protect ourselves from looters. Others were hit much harder with no preparations, or lost their preparations in the storm surge.

    I wasn't afraid then and I'm not afraid now, just cautious and well prepared.
     
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