Is Covid 19 a biological weapon?

Discussion in 'Nuclear, Chemical & Bio Weapons' started by Eleuthera, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Mushroom

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    Nope, somebody that simply gives up, because there is absolutely no use in talking with a conspiracy theorist.

    You can explain nothing, but everything is a conspiracy. You know, there is a pace here you can hang out and chat about that all you want. Where nobody demands proof, and you all can wallow in your paranoia without us having to be exposed to it.

    We also use weed killer on crops, I guess that is part of the same conspiracy as well.

    And do not forget the Joos and UFOs. Oh, and the Trilateral Commission and the Gang of 8 must be involved as well.
     
  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If there is no use in talking with a conspiracy theorist, WTH are you doing talking to me? Conflicted much?
     
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    If I didn't want to know, I wouldn't ask. I know you're trying to come across as deep and mysterious but it isn't working.
     
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    I appreciate the links and have reviewed them. I do not however see evidence that this was created.

    In fact, China's initial claim makes way more sense. Given what they eat there.
     
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    And it is the exact same way that humans caught HIV.

    HIV is a mutation of the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, which made the jump from apes to humans after eating bushmeat. The same way that this virus seems to have made the jump after eating bat meat.
     
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    It was dispersed by bat 5968 from the Wuhan wet markets
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If it is a bioweapon.. no one can confess to it.. not us , not them, because a real WW3 shooting war would HAVE TO follow.
     
  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    When do criminal bastards like that confess to anything?
     
  10. Mushroom

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    Really, Veterans Today?

    You mean that web site made by a punk rock singer, that claims that Israel made it? And that the US made it? And that it is all a hoax, created by Israel to cause panic for their own profit?

    That website is a complete joke and scam, and ridiculed by everybody. Especially those in the Veteran community.

    You might as well claim you got the information from Storm Front or Alex Jones. I think they have more credibility than "Veterans Today".

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/...ed-on-china-by-zionists-sgt-report-interview/

    If VT claimed that the sun was going up tomorrow, I would take it with a huge grain of salt. Because they would be saying it was doing so as part of an Israeli Zionist plot in association with the US to corner the market on sunlight for their own nefarious Capitalist purposes.

    And yea, the guy that created it is more full of lies than the claims of college students getting lucky after Spring Break. A musician from a punk band, he claims he created the site after owning "5 National Newspapers", and at the urging of a high school friend who was "active in combat" in the 1990 Gulf War, and was so again in 2003. Oh, and his buddy captured Saddam. And no, I am not making that up. He really has claimed that his buddy that demanded he make the sight captured Saddam.

    And he has never said what the 5 "national newspapers" he owned and published were, as he was touring with Twisted Nixon.

    https://www.johnnypunish.com/profile/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/author/punish/

    Those are his own claims, published on his own websites. And VT is entirely privately owned and operated by John Alen (Johnny Punish).

    This is why I tell people over and over to "vette their sources". When discussing anything in the world, they always have the same answer for the cause of almost anything. The US and Jews. But they are a real magnet for anti-Semites. They absolutely love that place.
     
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    OK, I see you're a mushroom, grown and kept in the dark and fed MSM bullshit.

    Understood. You are in such a bad position that you must attack the messenger, remaining silent about the message and facts. Certainly not the first I've met.

    Yes, when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
     
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    Actually, I do not pay much attention to the news at all, from any source.

    And slander? I gave you references from the VT website for goodness sakes! Right where Mr. Johnny Punish himself makes the claim that he was the owner of 5 US National Newspapers! How in the hell is it slander when I am literally quoting the dude? Right from his own biography from the website I am critiquing, that is in question?

    And a website which has a dozen different claims to where this disease started. And every single one blames Israel, the US, or the US and Israel combined.

    Now tell me exactly where I used slander, because I can and have given references to everything I just posted. I simply point out that everything from that site is a steaming pile of crap and can not be trusted. You are the one that is tossing around insults, and apparently love a site that is so anti-Semitic that it probably wins the Adolph Hitler Seal of Approval, and is one of the favorite sites of those inbreed incestous fanbois of Storm Front.

    And if all you can do is insult others that point this out and try to defend them, then I can see what your beliefs are.

    I now exercise my right by vetting another participant.
     
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    And I point out to you Shroom, the painfully obvious, unpleasant to contemplate, but bloody obvious--the US government and its Mockingbird media have a long and shameful record of deception.

    If you don't understand that fact, yes we are both vetting, separating the credulous from the curious.
     
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    How Americans are obsessed with Iran, Brits are obsessed with Germany; Russians are obsessed with UK?
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11190739/russia-blames-britain-coronavirus-skripal-novichok/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8120505/Russia-blames-BRITAIN-coronavirus-outbreak.html
    I guess it was the spread of our language and culture that got to Russia to obsessed with UK; they call us impearlist; our BBC news shows a Russian doctor going to a Russian church that's still open saying because it's a church she can't get Covid-19, so it's not like I'm being brainwashed to respect the Russians atm, but that's the news/UK state BBC news. In living, I've never met a Russian that I haven't gotten along with, I like Russians I've met because we seem to hit it off, which is cool imo.
     
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    I'm hopingCOVID-19's a final wave of SARS.
    That COVID-19 is SARS's 2nd wave.
    Also, MERS in 2012 is something to watch the coming again of in 2030s?


    Could COVID-19 be the 2nd wave of SARS?
    If not, what could a 2nd wave of COVID-19 be? The same strains mutated resistant to vaccine and soap?
    If this is SARS's 2nd wave, then we're due for MERS to flare up in 10 years time and perhaps anything in 10 years time won't really be COVID-19's 2nd wave.
     
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    Russian scholars are already blaming the British in Russian history books.
     
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    These are all SARS. The name actually is "Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome". Which is typical when a disease is first discovered, but the cause has yet to be determined. Just as AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) became obsolete once the cause was discovered. That is why it is now most commonly called HIV.

    A "syndrome" is an illness where the cause is as of yet undiscovered or unconfirmed. Once it was realized SARS was caused by a virus, the name of the specific virus is what was used.

    And ironically, the SARS outbreak in 2004 was caused by SARS-CoV-1. Which later mutated into SARS-CoV-2, which is what mutated into SARS-CoV-19.

    And there is no "resistance to vaccine", there is really no way to make one for this virus. The damned thing mutates and jumps back and forth between humans and animals so fast that any vaccine is pointless. Even if it was made, it would be obsolete in a year with the newest mutation. Kinda like why we can not make a vaccine for the common cold, or for the annual flu that does not need to be changed every year.
     
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    SARS = South Asian Respiratory Syndrome
    MERS = Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome
    These are all Coronavirus.
     
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    Likely we'll never know. Whether it was aerosolled into a crowd or just left on a rubber glove in the garbage that got re-used, either could lead us to today.
     
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    Americans and Brits are obsessed with whatever bogey-man the mainstream media is pushing during any given time period.

    We fear who we are told to fear, we hate who we are told to hate. We think as we are instructed to think.

    As Edward Bernays put it, "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."
     
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    MERS, yes. But there has not been any change that I am aware of (or realistically could find) changing the name of SARS.

    And that change would make no sense, since many of the outbreaks have not been in South Asia.

    And yes, there are a few scattered references here and there for the South Asian definition, apparently coming from media sources making a mistake. But in all professional media I could find, it is Severe Acute.
     
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    Just when you think you've mastered the universe, somebody comes along and tells you you haven't.
     
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    True..... the Communist Party of China is astonishingly corrupt and capable of doing just about anything that they think might increase revenue that they can share with each other.
     
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    The CCP or the DNC? ;)
     
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    LOL Is that a leading question??? Everyone knows it both of them!!
     

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