Ga election

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    What I was referring to was the likelihood that the Dems have all three, and that will be seen by some as not good. My own view is that Team USA needs to take a huge boot up the collective National clacker so it learns...."Orange Man Bad," is entirely true, and using crap slogans as a wash off.....did not work, never will. Orange Man was toxic, and you have likely ensured there will never be an encore.
     
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    OK, at one point I wanted the Senate to remain Republican for checks and balances. I agreed with @Curious Always several times on this; she can confirm that I did post in support of this, multiple times. In the General Election I voted for Biden and for the Republican senate in my state, who won. I was glad about it. Then Trump started that BS, and Republican elected officials started supporting him on this, including these two Republican senatorial candidates in Georgia. This pissed me off. I consider anybody who condones this attempted coup, an enemy of Democracy. So actually I'm glad that these two clowns lost.

    Now my hope is that Joe Manchim will be the guarantor of the checks and balances. He is the ultimate conservative Democrat, and he is much closer ideologically to moderate Republicans than to progressive Democrats. Manchim will NOT vote for controversial extremist bills. He said he will NEVER vote for packing the courts, won't vote for big tax increases, etc.

    So, if he stays the course, the Dems won't pass radical bills into law.

    So, I'm still kind of OK with the checks and balances the way they'll be.

    It is a bit of a positive, to inflict another defeat upon the Republicans, as a punishment for what they did, enabling Trump's wannabe dictator coup attempts.
     
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    Warnock yes but I still have Oddof losing to Perdue by 1206!
     
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    Yup.

    The Dems WON BOTH.

    The outstanding votes are in Black Counties, and Everybody Knows that the Dems Won Both.

    At 12:52 AM in the East...

    We are seeing a smashing start to a VERY BAD DAY (For Trump and the GOP).

    24 Hours From Now, Biden WILL have been certified as the WINNER.

    Then, WHAT Will Trump Do?

    What is he capable of?

    It is just a matter of how long this Comical Clown Charade is going to last in Congress.
     
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    I could not find anything significant thing to disagree with you about.
    I am still hoping for people like Kasich to be a major part of the Republican Party.
     
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    The democrats need to get rid of the Filibuster and get Biden's whole agenda passed in these 2 years.

    They need to get things passed and allow the American people to see the change in their life for the better, the only way the GOP has a chance in 2 years is if they can stop the Democrats and use fear of the "Unknown" if Biden gets things done and peoples lives improve, democrats win in a landslide in 2022.
     
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    Sure. So is winning the lottery on the day you're hit by lightening.
     
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    I remain shocked it wasn't a runaway, but predicted
    I'm currently in complete agreement, and 100% pissed at Trump for causing this.

    A pox on both their houses, but if karma has to come to play, pretending that COVID is a hoax is projecting karma in the right direction.

    Trump is the nongift that keeps on nongiving.
     
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    Evidence, please. "I'm sure" doesn't cut it.

    You guys continue to doubt the elections in a place with a Republican governor, a Republican secretary of state, a Republican legislature, and Republicans in all positions that control the implementation of the elections, after two recounts (one of them manual) and one audit. Why would all these Republicans try to cheat for Biden???

    There's been abundant proof that the elections in Georgia were free and fair. But no, you are just "sure" that there was cheating.

    And now TWO other races go the same way, which shows that simply, voters in Georgia, although by a narrow majority, currently prefer Democratic candidates. No fraud, no conspiracy theory needed. It's simply that after all the demographic changes, growth of Atlanta, the black community becoming more affluent and more influential, Stacey Abrams popularity and get-out-the-vote efforts, the pandemic hurting these communities, the GOP blocking the stimulus checks, etc., simply, Georgia has turned slightly blue. It happens. No need to explain it through fraud, cheating, or conspiracies.

    You lost. Move on. Try to do better next time.
     
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    This won't last. There are enough votes in DeKalb, Fulton, and Chatham counties that are enough to deliver Ossoff's victory by about 20,000 votes when it's all counted. There is one county that predominates Republican still counting, but it's a smaller county than DeKalb and Fulton which will resume tomorrow. So tonight the difference for Perdue may go up by an additional couple of thousand, but when DeKalb, Fulton, and Chatham resume the counting tomorrow and finish, Ossoff will have won by about 20,000 votes. Maybe he'll lose a couple of thousand if the 17,000 overseas and military ballots turn slightly against him (they did go for Biden in November), but should still win by at least 15,000.
     
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    It's not really about Dem vs GOP. It's country vs city. Very different value systems
     
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    If not for the Socialist FDR they wouldn't have electricity or internet or really any public Utility to whine about liberal because no private company would spend the money to reach small population centers.
     
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    98% reporting. Perdue still ahead.
     
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    Your assuming most of those voters are Democrats. You could be wrong.
     
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    Well, consistently, 72% of the Fulton votes are going for the Dems, and 83% of the DeKalb. Also, 60% of the Chatham votes. The outstanding votes are early in-person votes which have trended overwhelmingly Democrat. Sorry, but the odds that I'm wrong are very small.
     
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    Our cities just have more people and better unions. Takes longer to count.
     
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    LOL, there are 20,000 likely sexists among the Republican voters. Why did 20,000 voters pick Perdue but not Loeffler? Too funny.
     
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    Not me.

    I think it is GREAT...

    And, it is 100% Undeniable:

    Trump single-handedly Cost GA those 2 seats.

    Just more of Trump's scorched earth policy of smashing as many windows (and destroying as much as he can) on his way out.

    How can any member of he GOP even possibly still support Trump?

    Trump Lost the Senate for them.

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    Looks like it. Is this the right time?

     
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    According to the map I saw multiple Republican counties are still only 93%-95% reporting. Can you post a link to your interactive map so I can see what I'm missing?
     
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    Harris County for example is only 91% reporting and most of the votes have been for the Republicans.

    Are the remaining votes mail in? I thought those were counted first?
     
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    Agreed, but IMO, Joe Biden is closer to moderate Republicans than Progressive Democrats. Manchin endorsed Biden early on, and he may serve more as a leader than a guardrail. I found an interesting article about taxes. This was written Nov. 16th

    Rep. Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, a member of House Democrats’ more conservative-minded Blue Dog Coalition, supports rolling back the Trump tax cuts. She said they help only wealthy individuals and corporations.

    Echoing Mr. Biden, she promises no tax increases “on middle-class and working families.”

    Sen. Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, who ranks as the most conservative Democrat in the Senate, signaled support for Mr. Biden’s fiscal agenda soon after Election Day.

    “I’ve always said I’m fiscally responsible and socially compassionate,” Mr. Manchin said on “Face The Nation” on Nov. 8. “I believe most Americans are, my moderate Republican friends and moderate Democrats. We’ve got to govern from that middle, that moderate middle. Joe Biden has always been there. He knows how to work across the aisle. He’ll reach out first and make this Senate work and give it every chance he can.”


    Joe Biden must repeal Trump tax cuts, divided Democrats agree - Washington Times

    I supported Kasich in 2016. I was hoping Biden would run. It would have been a tough choice for me; they are both centrists who lean slightly left and right.

    What turned out was the easiest NOTA* I ever cast.

    none of the above only in nevada
     
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    Did God help us in 2016?
     
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    NYT estimates 90,000 votes still uncounted. Ossoff needs about 51% of those to win. You have to figure that, given where they are coming from, that is a much better than even bet.

    BTW I like your post from earlier about your mind changing on a 50/50 Senate. I seem to recall mentioning to you a week or two ago that such a situation wasn't going to herald the Revolution. Removing the cancer that is Mitch McConnell from the heart of American political life will be a very positive thing.

    Biden will get to appoint some judges & a Cabinet and he will be able to pass some good and important legislation. The progressive wing of the party is likely going to spend as much time attacking Biden & Manchin as they do the GOP, possibly more. Likely the GOP will take House, Senate or both in 2022, so this won't last long. Of course, Trump might hang around and make a mess of things.

    Oh, and Stacey Abrams is a superstar. She will run for Governor in Georgia in 2022 and might just win. Very smart lady.
     
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