Capitol is on lockdown as pro-Trump demonstrators try to break into the building

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Wait, defund the police!!! When it was the left engaging in anarchy it was the police who were attacked by the left and MSM.
     
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    Like I said. Brick wall.

    You compared the two as though they were equal. They aren't.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    I'm at home. If you are asking my position on this, msg#300, point to my hypocracy. I think I've been consistent, how about you? If I search back will I find a post from you condemning the left wing anarchist and their violence and occupations or it this your epiphany?
     
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    I'm just waiting with bated breath to hear the Dirty Dozen continue articulating their objections to the electoral vote. Do we really have to wait until January 20 to replace this monster? In two years I wonder if the Republicans will have the audacity to run candidates in the midterms.
     
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    Like when I called antifa fascists and thugs and didn't try to hijack the thread by changing the subject? Can you do the same? Can you condemn these people, categorically, without changing the subject?
     
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    Of course they are. You're just too myred in your partisan bacchanal to acknowledge it. I will right here, right now, condemn the tactics of the extreme left demonstrated since May of this year, and the tactics of the extreme right as demonstrated this afternoon. Both groups are criminals who should arrested -- with force if necessary -- and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Will you join me in condemning lawlessness regardless of the perpetrators?
     
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    And?
     
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    MESSAGE #300. Can you try to discuss it by reading what I posted and addressing what actually said and it's all the same subject, the anarchy that is taking over the country now from both sides.

    And BTW I count 4 times you said they were thugs or neo-anarchist all back in 2018 and at the same time saying they were really right wing.

    Now this one really shows your sympathies

    "Far more than Antifa or BLM have killed, and yet we are told they are an existential threat. But if the right wing agrees to quit pretend that Antif and BLM are a serious threat, then we can talk about dropping right-wing extremists too. Something tells me you won't agree to that."
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...land-courthouse.576317/page-3#post-1071920202
     
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    Sounds like the mob has changed the minds of the objectors and we will move back to symbolic counting of the votes.
     
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    I asked if you could condemn this violence WITHOUT trying to change the subject to the left. Message #300 does no do that. Can you condemn this without whataboutism? I did so for antifa, why can't you do so now?
     
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    Remember that time liberals stormed capitol hill when Hilary lost to stop vote cetification? Me neither.
     
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    Well, I remember an exceedingly peaceful march right after the inHOGuration of Trump....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women's_March

    Note the Capitol building in the background of that picture on Wiki, with no tear gas being used....
     
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    And ... he will be the only President to stay at the White House for a so little time. It would be a record ...
     
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    Exactly right.

    The right looked at the pathetic display of madess, and chastised it all summer, as did I. Now, they are cheering a violent transfer of power.

    They aren't snowflakes, though. They are a special kind of something; I'm not sure how to categorize this madness, and approval thereof.
     
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    And now you are no better than them. Congratulations.
     
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    Do you realize how much damage he can do in 13 days?
     
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    That's not remotely accurate. Here's what the Constitution says:

    There's nothing in there about a different standard for disqualification vs removal. It takes 2/3 supermajority to convict on impeachment, and no punishment (neither removal nor disqualification) can be imposed without that conviction. Sorry, but the MSM lied to you and you believed it.
     
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    It states clearly my position on these mostly peaceful protestors as the MSM calls anarchist. And as I noted your claims about your condemnation of the anarchy of the left, you didn't mention BLM, and the occupiers, don't seem to the very current. And the differences in coverage and discussion IS subject to this discussion. I'm surprised this hasn't happened until now or that it finally boiled up with on the right.

    But watching, you could turn off the sound and stop the labeling, fuzz out the signs, so it was just the video and you would not be able to hardly tell if is now or a previous left wing mostly peaceful protest. Well you might because so far I have not seen and arson or fires or police cars being turned over an burned, or looting or rocks and bricks and urines and feces being thrown on the police.
     
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    Congress's approval rating is worse than hemorrhoids, Nickelback, traffic jams, cockroaches, root canals, colonoscopies, and herpes. Herpes beat them out! 1/2 of America has been disenfranchised with Big Tech, the MSM, Big Pharma, Public Education, and bureaucracies actively working against them. They have been lied to, lied about, and critical information has been purposely withheld from them and the nation. Are they being "mostly peaceful"? Perhaps "93% peaceful"?

    I didn't see any outrage by the establishment forces when these people now protesting were being **** on. Many of them have been put out of work by the Democratic Governors. They have little to lose. It's a bad recipe. Today's demonstration was nothing like the burning of cities, murder of innocents by ANTIFA and BLM.

    Today's protest may be a catalyst for actions that would really matter. The real serious threat is if they figure out to quit paying their Federal Taxes as a group. That is how Rome fell. The citizens that contribute decided Rome no longer represented them and quit paying taxes.

    Government and the establishment better knock off all the bullshit like unrequested mail in ballots sent to millions of bad addresses nationally where the ability to audit is impossible as signatures are removed from ballots, or court packing threats, or pushing these "Murder by Police" anecdotal stories that are total outliers. When one side goes too far this happens. It's a normal human event. Where is the introspection that perhaps the Left went too far? I'm not seeing it anywhere... except on the steps of the Capitol. Let's all pray no one is hurt and the destruction is minimal. Damning these people is mighty hypocritical and myopic.
     
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    If we are going to spitball this unlikely scenario all the way out, I would imagine Pence wouldn't even bother moving into the WH, with less than 2 weeks to go...

    The only downside to Pence being a Temp POTUS would be the potential of a Trump pardon, which I now find incredibly unlikely after the events of the past 48 hours...

    Pence is a tool, but there's enough of a former lawmaker in there, plus a probable desire to be his own man again, that I wouldn't fear 2 weeks of a Pence presidency. I was fine with Pence taking over had Trump been removed by impeachment last year....

    Looks like everybody is jumping on this bandwagon

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/impeach-trump-now.html
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/trump-supporters-capitol-hill-insurrection-impeachment.html
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/impeach-trump-again/617573/
     
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    How true!
     
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    I am watching a the most pathetic display of whataboutism unfold before my eyes.

    How DARE any of you condone this based on previous acts of violence.

    ALL violence is wrong, and YES, I said so all summer.

    Shame on you.

    Partisan politics is destroying my country. STOP IT

    Wrong is wrong; party is completely irrelevent. The election was investigated, over and over again.

    Shut up and sit down. You are disgusting.
     
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    Yup, we've had a year of "protesters" being allowed to run rampant without any consequences for their action (except that one night in Kenosha). Little surprise that the other side has started to pick up on that and incorporate similar tactics.
     
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    Thanks for yet another dodge. I'm sorry you can't bring yourself to condemn terrorism without using it as an opportunity to try to shine the spotlight elsewhere. Your failures here are not my responsibility. Your lack of earnest concern for RW terrorism is noted.
     
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