A man in Illinois pleaded guilty to inciting a violent riot in support of Black Lives Matter

If they get arrested for looting they don't cry about it. When Trumpers get arrested, they ask daddy Trump for a pardon.

 

LMAO, so that makes it ok lmao How many you reckon got sent to prison so far?

 

If this guy is guilty of inciting violence then jail him. With extremely rare exceptions violent protest is both unecessary and dangerous. Not just to those present where the violence is taking place, but more broadly. By all means punish it.

 

Show me where I said that it's okay. I said they accept the consequences. Asking someone for a pardon is not accepting the consequences. Do you agree?

 

So how many will be charged and how will all the victims be made whole again??

 

Sure now, right

 

So the DA declining to press charges is who's fault? The protesters? Is it their job to do the work of the criminal justice system? When you run a red light or break a law, do you call the authorities?

 

Ya it's the DA's fault..

 

Ok. So the DA declining to press charges is different than rioters not accepting the consequences.

 

Nope. No change in decades.

I was hating on ANTIFA & associated groups long before your right wing media even told you they existed and I've always opposed violent protest.

Unlike US conservatives I don't venerate the idea of revolutionary violence and treat weapons as some divine instrument to implement my ideas.

 

Well I'll take your word for it.. But between you and I, I don't think you qualify...

 

That makes no sense at all!

 

Yes it is their job. But they take marching orders from a chain of command.. Top down, who told the gov to tell the mayor, clearly you're missing a lot.

 

I'm not missing anything. I said it was not the job of the protestors to prosecute themselves. That falls on the job of the city DA.

 

It makes every bit of sense. You should ask the city DA how many case files they get on their desk every day. I know you think they should prosecute every case because "rule of law," but the reality is that our court systems are already bogged down with minor violations so not every Portland case can be prosecuted. It may be shocking, but not every case involving curfew violations and protesting in streets needs to be prosecuted. Portland DA are only going after the major offenders due to case load, and as far as I know, none of them have asked Biden for a pardon.

 

Videos of the riots are being taken down constantly. Eventually Democrats will be able to point and say look, the riots never happened!!! This is 1984.

 

He never said to commit violence. But he did say to demonstrate peacefully.

 

I wasn't aware that disagreeing with violent protest was a country specific activity. Americans really do have some strange ideas.

 

Sorry, I wasn't aware the ANTIFA & associated groups had made their way to Australia..

So how are you folks controlling their violence?

 

They have been here for over 2 decades, as they have been in the US. Like I said, US right wingers are really late to the party on this. I personally experienced them some time in the late 90s and took an instant dislike. Most of the left wing people I know here have a similar attitude. They don't appreciate having their peaceful gatherings hijacked by grandstanding ****wits.

I'm not aware that we are doing anything special. One of the advantages of living in a well run society without a history of venerating political violence is that we don't seem to be as attracted to it as Americans of all stripes. We don't have as many or as big protests, the protests aren't about issues as existential as people being killed by agents of the state and ANTIFA types exist in small & manageable numbers.

 

I suppose that's the beautiful thing about 25 million and 355 million Far easier to control..

 

Get used to it for the next several years. "But Trump" has it's own key on the left's keyboards.

 

Not especially. We live much like you do - concentrated in large cities in self governing states that are responsible for their own policing. The national government is more powerful than yours, and that certainly can help with the 'well run' bit, but issues relating to groups like ANTIFA & protests in general are largely handled at the state level. One mistake we haven't made is giving local government too much power. That is particularly useful when it comes to policing - every state has one police force, not dozens.

Most of your problems aren't about size (and you seem to have added about 20+ million people), but approach. That is a much larger conversation, so best leave it there.

 

You couldn't possibly You might live like we did in California 1980 Land mass taken in to fact not even close

 

It's not wrong. You are making crap up.

We heard his speech. Stop trying to say Trump said something he never said.