'Like The Mob': Trump In Trouble As Family Member Floats Ivanka Flipping

'Like The Mob': Trump In Trouble As Family Member Floats Ivanka Flipping

Citizen Donald Trump is speaking out about the criminal probe into his namesake organization, admitting the crime during a rally and downplaying the charges. Prosecutors are still pressuring Trump’s money man Allen Weisselberg to start talking. MSNBC’s Dr. Jason Johnson is joined by former Acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Katyal to discuss the latest in the investigation. (This interview is from MSNBC’s “The Beat with Ari Melber, a news show covering politics, law and culture airing nightly at 6pm ET on MSNBC. http://www.thebeatwithari.com).​

They play a clip of him admitting and downplaying his tax cheating at a rally. The crowd doesn't seem so quick or energetic to agree with him when he acts as though he is appalled at being indicted for failing to pay taxes on things like cars, apartments and tuition.

What do you think? Might it be that his audience is made up of conservatives who work hard and pay their taxes, who even make it a point of pride and part of their identity as conservatives and Republicans to do so, and so don't usually think too kindly of people who try to cheat the system the way Donald openly admits to doing? That's what I'm thinking.

Here is a transcript of what he said there for reference:

"They go after good, hard working people for not paying taxes on a company car. 'You didn’t pay tax on the car or a company apartment. You used an apartment because you need an apartment because you have to travel too far where your house is. You didn’t pay tax, or education for your grandchildren.' I don’t even know what do you have to put? Does anybody know the answer to that stuff?"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...t-Rally-and-Blurts-Out-His-Propaganda-Tactics​

I dunno. "Good, hard-working people" and "not paying taxes" just don't seem to belong together in one sentence.

 

ain’t the question like the mob. he’s just a dumfuk criminal. i’m embarrassed ny took so long. he’s been a ny fraud for decades. wtf

 

What sticks out to me is "good hard working people" and "company car, apartment, and tuition for your family. $1,700,000 worth." Not paying the tax is just insulting at that point.

 

Washington Post political reporter David Fahrenthold and marketing expert Donny Deutsch on how documents from the Trump Organization might become key in the case against the former president.​

Early in the video, there is also a WaPo quote. The article headline is: Prosecutors say spreadsheets from Trump Organization offer a road map for its indictment. Where the investigation goes now is the question.

And they quote the following from the article:

"Prosecutors treated the spreadsheets as the accounting equivalent of a confession. And that concealment, they said, showed that the Trump Organization knew it was wrong."​

It's kind of hilarious that they kept these records of cheating and Trump acts like it's no big deal while freely admitting to it all. He and others concealed it all, of course, knowing that what they were doing was illegal, but Trump still acts like it wasn't wrong, as though he just operates according to his own set of rules. But that's nothing new for him, is it? In his demented mind, his quid pro quo was a "perfect call" and his purposeful failure to pay millions in taxes is no big deal.

 

Yeah, that is weird. Maybe they just didn't realize how much abuse was going on and so didn't deem it worthwhile? Certainly they never had a guy like Michael Cohen bringing so much attention to the matter and providing so much information about it. I imagine that is what really got the ball rolling.

 

Just admit he would likely never have been charged if he had never entered politics.

 

i just wish he stiffed the wrong concrete people back then. we woulda been rid of this mess.

 

When a company is indicted, the owner, CEO or other controlling official will do one of two things:

1) Deny the charges
2) Throw somebody under the bus

Trump admits the charges, and he obviously can't throw Weisselberg under the bus. Weisselberg is a fool if he takes the fall. Going to prison doesn't get Trump off the hook.

 

I actually agree. If he had not entered politics, Michael Cohen never would have had to arrange that hush-money payment, and so there is at least a much lower chance that he would have ended up indicted and subsequently flipping on Trump, subsequently spilling all the beans.

But that is all water under the bridge now. Are you a fan of the admitted tax cheat?

 

She lied under oath about $140M missing from inaugural funds. Maybe the build a prison solely for people with the last name Trump. Surely, it's not just Orange Jesus and his biologically related crush. Yuck.

 

I don't think Cohen should ever have been charged. That has just a dirty strategy to try to coerce him to turn as witness against Trump.

The problem with the case against Cohen

 

Fascinating. He was convicted and therefore obviously guilty and deserving of having been charged, so I'm very curious as to your reasoning.

 

Um, no. That's a logical fallacy to automatically jump from dot A to dot B.

Just like not everyone who pleads guilty is guilty.

But maybe that may be a little too "complicated" for some people to comprehend.

 

the best thing i read about cohen … his father told him to come clean to respect their name and he honored it. he gets a pass from me.

 

Cohen freely admits his wrongs.

 

Yeah, only so the prosecutor would take it easy on him.

He's just doing whatever he thinks the prosecutor wants to hear. He knows the prosecutor didn't really want him, the prosecutor was after a bigger fish.

In this country, in the "justice system", sometimes prosecutors use their powers to pressure and coerce defendants into lying.

I admit Cohen is very probably a slime ball, just like half the other lawyers in NYC.

 

Kinda cute how you pretend the Crime Family is Trump, not Biden. You fool no one! Read the Tea Leaves:



You guys are going down!

 

To this day he continues to do so. He doesn't have to do that at this point, but chooses to.

It's like you would rather just believe this alternative reality about him and Trump than accept very painfully obvious facts.

Hear it from the man himself:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen/id1530639447

 

Everybody is lying except Trump.

 

I thought the Clintons were the crime family. Funny how quickly the kooks have jumped to the Bidens instead.

 

How many people are 'everybody', exactly?

Look, if I had a gun to your head, you'd try to tell me what I wanted to hear too.

The prosecutor controls these cases a lot more than the judge does, something many people don't understand. Judges are pretty busy with multiple other cases and are almost always just inclined to let the prosecutor run the show, unless something is totally glaringly obvious to them that is unfair.

 

Hey, it's your CT. You tell me.

 

Cy Vance did start an investigation some years back with the Trump Soho scandal but that seemed to go nowhere (with allegations of pay offs’ and in my belief he should have been jailed for Trump University = but again there are these allegations of money and wheel greasing

 

If they jailed him for Trump University then they would also have had to jail the Clintons for their part in Laureate University, which was even worse.

So many of these politicians seem to do all the same deeds, it's uncanny.

 

There is absolutely no comparison between Trump "University" and Laureate University or whatever the Clintons have to do with it. The story I found was Bill being paid a lot to be an “honorary chancellor.” Oh, and he actually reported it to the IRS!

Will you just quit this nonsense and try thinking critically? Will you stop acting like this is a war and your side is right no matter what? You don't need to be on any side. You can think for yourself and examine facts rationally and objectively. Try it. It's fun.