Time to Force Vaccinations for All

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Probably a lot more so than the small risk of fatality which is what on par with the annual flu? And also a well-established vaccine that has long-term studies not some experimental one brought to market in record timing imagine if you will a disease so deadly the majority of people have to be tested just to find out they even have it.....
     
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  2. GrayMan

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    Viruses may become more contagious over time but they evolve to become less deadly. That and we grow a natural partial immunity to the virus and future strains.

    If it mutates to become more deadly, it won't spread as easily as the host won't carry the virus as long and may isolate more due to stronger symptoms. This virus will not be able to compete with the other less deadly variants.
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's not irrational to fear death. Death is the basis of all fears

    As I just said, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. I'm not about die to protect somebody's right to kill me. Fauci isn't mongering anything, you just think politics can alter reality, like most Trumpers. Mutations can't come from vaccinated people because the vaccine will kill all the mutations off first.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you get easily sick then you have a weak immune system. That is your issue.

    Take care of your health and you will rarely every get sick. Trust me it works.

    The people who smoke and risk getting cancer are the biggest hypocrites asking others to vaccinate to so they can be safe from covid. If you don't take care of your health you have only yourself to blame if you get sick and die.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If it's all the same to you I think I'll just make everybody get vaccinated before it kills half of humanity thanks
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Covid is honestly not as bad as the fear mongers make it out to be.

    My wife had it and was cured by normal fever reducer medicine and she has compromised health. I never even got sick from here. Her friend is a nurse and even she says it's not that bad.

    Many have been put into a state of fear from the left biased news propaganda on tv.
     
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  7. Flynn from Az

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    If you have such a issue with how the constitution refrains the government from forcing people to do certain things, move too a authoritarian country, seems like you fit right in.
     
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    More irrational fear.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not killing half of humanity. Not even close. Your post is nothing more than fear mongering.
     
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    Do you believe in Heaven? Are you a Christian? If so you have nothing to fear.

    Hell is a scary place so if you are not right with God then you should be afraid of dying.
     
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    Irrational fear, and totalitarianism.
     
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    Wrong point of view ...
    The personal rights are lesser importantthe the common rights of the society ... and for sure unimportant if they can hurt the rights of others!
    I am vaccinated since June with Johnson & Johnson ... but I am sick of people who deny to to do so out of rubbish reasons and so endangering all those who are not vaccinated yet. And I am sick about them too that all the restrictions are still valid for me too, only these people are not willing to move their butt to get vaccined.

    And I am also over with these people who still tell Corona smaller and less danger as it is. Facts are facts, but these days it is a fashion to hold up a shield with "being against it" for all and everything and still denying facts like 1+1=2 too, because could also be 3!
     
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    Man ... this is now somehow really impudent what you write ... aside ignoring proven facts too!
    You "super dupa" immune system is maybe making it more unlikely for you to get sick ... but there are people having out of many reasons a weaker immune system as you and to demand that they shall work on theirs as reason that you don't take a vaccine is really impudent!

    You sir are just a minor grain of sand in society and your personal rights are undeniably completely irrelevant when it comes to the rights of society as a whole ... and if your claim to your rights jeopardizes the rights of others, then your rights are terminated!
     
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    At the end of the day it's about mass participation. You can write up laws saying people need to get vaccinated, but I would argue that this does not really do anything to increase participation among the masses.
     
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    Marry me!

    It would result in me and probably a cop or two leaving the house in a body bag, if they tried to hold me down and force medical care without informed consent.
     
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    Show us the science where the virus is going to kill half of humanity. So far the stats do not support that.
     
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    Fauci has a habit of spouting off nonsense.
     
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    Show us the science where the virus is more lethal than the vaccine.
     
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    This is me turning into a Dusty skeleton waiting on you to prove your last sentence but by all means go ahead and surprise me because it certainly would
     
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    Show my post where I claimed it was.....check mate.
     
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  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And you, if you transmitted covid to me for no better reason that to make Trump feel better
     
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    Yeah that's not going to happen.

    If you need everyone to be vaccinated for you to feel safe you will never feel safe. You will just have to deal with that.
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Your should never worry because there are really only 2 things to worry about. Either you're sick or you're healthy
    If you're healthy, that's good, if you're not there are only 2 things to worry about, either you'll live, and everything will be fine, or you'll die
    If you die there are only 2 things to worry about, either you'll go to heaven, and be happy foreever, or you'll go to hell
    And if you go to hell you'll be so busy meeting old friends you'll be busy forever.
    SO NEVER WORRY

    (I don't believe in god, heaven or hell, Tales told to frighten children basically, that's why my life is the most important thing in the Universe)
     
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    Funny thing is they call us Nazis.
     
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  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Constitution says that the government should function for the General Welfare. That pretty much includes keeping people alive if it can be easily done. The Founders didn't make allowance for people who were willing to die themselves as well as kill many of us just to spare the feelings of a crazy con man.
     

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