Just so Biden can be educated

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is how the Afghan pull out should have happened.

    Pull out all the Americans

    Pull out all Afghans that supported our military

    Pull out all our military equipment

    Destroy all bases they would be useful to the taliban

    Pull out our troops.

    Any one care to argue that this is the way it should have been done?
     
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  2. Lucifer

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    How many stars do you have on your uniform, general?
     
  3. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont have to be a General to have common sense.
     
  4. Lucifer

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    No stars? Damn, you're broke, because you certainly have never exhibited an inkling of common sense.

    So without getting your briefings from the Pentagon, what makes you think you have enough information to know what the real obstacles are without revealing further info to our enemies?
     
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    You need step #1: inform, agree with, and coordinate with nato allies about steps #2-6

    Oh and step #7: have some real contingency plans ready. Like not the made up in your head after all steps are done and it’s too late kind.
     
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    Question: How would the troops have been able to hold off the Taliban without military equipment?

    This is a chicken and egg problem, which came first?

    BTW: I wonder why you didn't post this insight a month ago? With your immense knowledge of the situation on the ground, you could have surely warned of the impending doom of Taliban rapid takeover? or are you just Monday morning quaterbacking, like all the Trumpers who just like to crucify Biden over anything?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Biden and educated should never be used in a sentence…
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well the chicken came before the egg this time…. If this 20 year war is such an issue for Trump… then the chicken Obama and Biden came before the Trump, and it was their problem to solve before Trump ever came on the scene… and they had 8 years to act on it instead of 4…
     
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    You done forgot the biggest pull out.That huge Brain booger than
    fogs Biden's brain no end.Plus demonstrating how Biden pulls out his
    pecker to take a leak.He don't ... he snaps his fingers for the official
    Biden schl*ng puller outter to do it fir him.
     
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  10. ECA

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    Obama punted just like Trump did.
     
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    Under the Pompeo/Dirty Donald agreement they signed with the Taliban, we were supposed to be out of Afghanistan by May 1,2021.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the downfall of Generals came when Wesley Clark { a 2 star General }
    was made a 4 star General by President Clinton.Clinton did it based
    soley on his friendship with *Clark.And also because both men had
    gigantic ego's.
    Clark's ego was so big he ran for President in 2004.

    * Both Clinton and Clark where Rhodes Scholars.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @logical1
    Your plan is solid but way too common sense to expect from a democrat president
    As you can see, his worshippers in here can’t even give you rebuttals with substance and think they are so slick with their “stars” comment
    And to all the geniuses in here, there is no justification for not getting Americans out first
    Stop with the lame sauce answers and say something with logic and common sense for a change
    Sad!
     
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    And you can guarantee that when the Americans were being pulled out, the Taliban wouldn't
    take a page from the Iranians and simply hold them hostage? Or have done the same to
    the Afghans who helped our military? It would be a wonderful world if the Law of Unintended Consequences
    didn't exist - but it does. You might be right ... or you might start a bigger mess.
     
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    Hey, do you think that all the people at the DoD are stupid and haven't thought of this before? The reality is: the situation on the ground is a lot more complex and fluid than simplistic RW thinking can grasp.

    And, before the accusation comes: Biden is not my master, I do not adore him, I can concede mistakes in the withdrawal process. In fact, such a complex operation involving 10s of 1000s of people would probably be impossible without mistakes.
     
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    Once again, a Democrat has to clean up the mess left by Republicans.

    All trump did was release 5000 criminals and invite them to the White House.
     
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    It is not that complicated or hard to understand. You keep the troops until last. They are fully armed. In addition they have air support which can operate out of one of the surrounding countries. You pull out the civilians and then the majority of the equipment. The troops then leave. They might leave a small residual amount of equipment as they load on the final aircraft to leave.

    What you do not want to happen is for the remaining civilians to have no protection.

    I wonder what the Taliban will do with our equipment. They have three basic options. They can use it. Some they are totally unqualified to operate such as most of the aircraft. They likely can learn, if they can find someone to teach them. They could sell the equipment back to us or they could sell the equipment to the Chinese or Russians. It will likely be combination of all three.
     
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    As I said, do you think everyone at the DoD is REALLY stupid that they haven't thought about those simplistic solutions first?
     
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    ..... and Joe fumbled.... big time.
     
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    That's a logical way to do it. But what did Biden do instead? He's at step 0 and Taliban took over.
     
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    Yup…the execution sucked ass. Glad we are getting the hell out of there but definitely could have been handled much better.
     
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    obviously they didn’t
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry you are right.
     
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    #Bundsgever problems.
     
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    Could have?....It's not over until we get all out safely.
     

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