US intelligence community 'struggled' to brief Trump, CIA study says

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  1. Arkanis

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    The US intelligence community "struggled" to brief President-elect Donald Trump in 2016, achieving "only limited success" in educating and developing a relationship with the incoming president, according to a newly released unclassified history of the transition period published by the CIA's in-house academic center.

    Although Trump spent substantial time with briefers on a routine basis throughout the transition period, his free-wheeling style and deep mistrust of the intelligence community presented them with "greater challenges" even than President-elect Richard Nixon, who blamed the CIA for his election loss in 1960 and cut the agency out as president, the history found.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/29/politics/trump-intelligence-briefings/index.html

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    I hope no one is surprised by this news.

    Did the CIA really hope to make a cognitively challenged POTUS, who is adept at conspiracy theories, understand anything?
     
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    This shouldn't be a surprise to any one who didn't drink the Kool-Aid.
     
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    I would be hesitant too if the potus took the word of a foreign leader over his own intelligence services.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this the same intelligence community who told Brandon it was safe to pull out of Afghanistan?
     
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    Trump has been gone for almost a year. The purpose of this thread is???????????
     
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    To remind folks that Trump was a dipshit of epic proportions.

    Duh.
     
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    Trump has, throughout his life, struggled to adapt facts to his beliefs. He's regularly rejected any physical evidence that challenges the image he wants to portray. He's regularly struggled with any physical evidence that challenges his agenda. The many sincerely doesn't understand the concept of objective fact; facts that challenge his image are to be rejected.
     
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    CNN is going through another scandal with their steroid fill anchor who’s also the brother of a sexual abuser. It’s too soon to deflect attention away from CNN’s problems with a new variant, so they’re rolling with Trump.
     
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    Let's absolutely go after CNN for that . . . but Trump has had far more sexual abuse scandals than Cuomo has.
     
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    The same intelligence community that participated in an attempted political coup against him before and after the election? The same intelligence community that says the Hunter Biden emails are all Russian disinformation?

    Brennen and Clapper........................really????

    Perhaps you should start a thread on what dip-shits they are.
     
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    Keep the fear of Trump at the highest possible level so that the mistake of 2016 isn't repeated.

    American democracy wouldn't recover.
     
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    Fake news, already debunked.

    Though I am not surprised to see knee jerk reaction threads created based on pure emotion.

    Trump has thus far out performed brandon and certainly obama together. Democracy suffers under dem "leadership".
     
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    And exactly when in your estimation would it have been 'safe'? The last Presidency, this one, five 5 presidencies from now? Pick a date.
     
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    Breaking news:

    CIA report says, "Unsafe for President to disagree with CIA. Recommends the office should be eliminated entirely." Frankly, they can't figure out why a president wouldn't do exactly as he's told. Must be unwilling to be educated.
     
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    Perhaps should comment only when you have a clear understanding of what is written.

    Clapper and Brennan have nothing to do with the document.

    It was written by John Helgerson.

    “Briefing Trump presented the IC with the most difficult challenges it had ever faced,” Helgerson wrote. According to the report, the intelligence community struggled large part because Trump “doubted the competence of intelligence professionals and felt no need for regular intelligence support.” Not since Nixon, nearly 50 years earlier, did the nation’s intelligence staff have such a difficult time with a president, Helgerson said.
     
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    dims drinking the kool-aid once again lol.
     
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    Clapper and Brennan were two high ranking people in the intelligence services. They were heads of intelligence services(CIA and DNI) They have both lied to Congress. Our(not yours, though I wouldn’t be surprised if your government has the same issues ours does) intelligence services have been involved in too many shady and downright awful things to get me to trust them completely. They may give me some good information, or they may be full of crap. Or they may lie to congress, they could spy on American citizens, institute coups in foreign nations, smuggle drugs, dang man I could go on and on. Why anyone would blindly trust our intelligence services is beyond me, and should be beyond you too based on their history alone.

    Governments suck, and are at best a necessary evil.
     
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    Brandon didn't sign the order to withdraw ;)

    I wonder who did......hmmmmmmm
     
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    So you disagree with them, without facts to support your position, so they are "dip-shits"?

    "Political coup"....FFS.....
     
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    Trump was a visual learner, not a learn by reading type of guy
     
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    So you’re trying to blame this on someone else even after Brandon the terms of the withdrawal and then called it a success.
     
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    This is to be expected. The attacks by the U.S. Intelligence Agencies on Trump was non-stop. He was even warned by Democrat Chuck Schumer.

    "You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you" - Chuck Schumer (U.S. Senate)
     
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    While others use their sense of smell!!
     
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    Biden did a crap job in the last days. But he didnt sign the agreement, he just did what he was legally required to do by law.

    If you think we shouldn’t have left Afghanistan, then your blaming the wrong guy.
     
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    Disagree with them on the Biden emails being fake Russian disinformation, well DUH you don't still believe those lies do you?

    Yes a political coup against Trump what else would you call it?
     
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