The Mainstream Media Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life...All Thanks To Joe Rogan

Videos can mislead in various ways, not even counting deepfakes. Any half-competent propaganda person knows that video is a powerful tool to mislead. Not necessarily an intentional example, but there was a video of a confrontation between two dumb people on an airline in which a woman yelled at a man for not wearing a mask and assaulted the man. The video was about masks, but the confrontation started before the video started and it was unrelated to masks. It started when she complained about being treated like Rosa Parks, and the guy chastised her for saying that and it escalated from there.

I think the only thing I would depend upon is a well-designed study. Not videos, and not testimony. CNN does a better job of sticking with the facts than FOX.

 

Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research is a liberal pollster. I generally rely on LW sources reporting against their bias.
Liberal pollsters have been warning about the decline of LW institutions for decades. Their warnings are usually ignored.
Probably a good thing.

 

Since 2015 I've been reading blogs by a Christian pastor who
impresses me as being a true "Christian Intellectual" in the sense that he
covers topics from all two or three or more relevant points of view.

His recent blog on all aspects of the Covid 19 issue really impressed me as
covering all major ways of looking at this issue..... (which is very useful to me considering that most of
my family members are fully vaxxed but my wife and I and our granddaughter and three grandsons are NOT vaxxed.... yet.....)





https://ctftoronto.com/covid19-updates

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I do admire how Pastor Steve Long leaves the question of church members getting vaccinated or not as being up to themselves.... and the Holy Spirit..... and their relationship with Jesus and the Ancient of Days the Father. I like how he specifically stated somewhere that Jesus could well tell one person to get vaccinated for a number of reasons...... and then tell somebody else to NOT get vaccinated for different reasons.... To my thinking this principle reminds me of......

Matthew 10:34
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I camenot to send peace, but a sword."

The Apostle Paul dealt with how some Christians felt terrible guilt if they ate meat that may have been offered to an idol.....
whereas other Christians felt that the idol was nothing... and eating the lower cost meat that had been offered to an idol was no big deal at all.



One of the obvious reasons as to why Pastor Steve Long would choose...... after doing a lot of prayer to NOT challenge the Province of Ontario regulations is because they do a pretty amazing outreach online.....
this is their January 2, 2022 service that my wife and I actually watched live as it took place..... (assuming that it was not pre-recorded...... the vast majority of their messages are indeed taking place live as they go out online ....)?????





Catch The Fire Toronto - Live, 11:15AM (January 2nd, 2022)
1,121 views
Streamed live on Jan 2, 2022

 

So let me get this straight. You and Joe say that the death rate globally was constant even in the middle of a world wide pandemic so we should just go about our business and stop worrying about COVID. Did I sum up this thread accurately?

 

My biggest gripe with the MSM is that, for the most part, yes, they report the truth but it is a slanted one sided truth where they present only the facts they want to present and totally ignore any facts that don't fit their liberal agenda. Yes, let's report every unvaccinated death of a right wing Trump supporter but bury under the rug and deaths or severe adverse reactions to vaccines or the number of vaccinated people who have died. ETC

 

OK, so if the death rate was X before COVID and it is still X after COVID one of two things must be true:

1. No one has died of COVID

Or

2. Less people died of non-related COVID and COVID deaths made up the difference which just happened to be the exact same death rate as before COVID.

Now if you believe either of these I have a bridge to sell you.

 

Not exactly....
I take D3, zinc, highly absorbable vitamin C as well as MSM.....
and I am sixty two with a pretty good immune system.....

so I am not really in the category of the most vulnerable potential victims of Covid 19.......
I myself would advocate spending some serious bucks on the more vulnerable people.......
(basically people who are seriously overweight or have COPD or compromised immune systems).........


The Muddy Water Experiment film production cooperative proposed.....

I actually have attempted to explain how spending some serious bucks on the more vulnerable could perhaps be financed......



Best Idea for a Better Canada Contest

Number two is closer to the truth.... ... it simply means that Covid 19 generally killed people who were close to death anyway..... .(with some exceptions of course)........... but the death toll in these past three years for pneumonia and the flu, for two examples ..... was probably decreased by our staying at home so much and social distancing............
so we lowered the average death toll in some ways.... but then Covid 19 did end up keeping the death toll at pretty much the usual annual rate..........

 

Would you mind sharing your definition of "fake news"?

 

Twitter is a private company and can police their platform as they see fit. What they can't do, is collude with other giant tech companies to squash out any rising competition that would have different policies counter to twitters.

 

I appreciate your optimism, God knows we need more of it. ...unfortunately I don't share it with you on this. 'BigMedia' is primarily funded these days by pharmaceutical advertizing and government bailout. Their usefulness in pushing propaganda overshadows their need to stay 'in the black' because they're being propped up by these other entities. Eventually they will become useless as propaganda tools if viewership drops too low, but the govt and the corporations propping them up are counting on being able to silence alternative media in the relatively near future and cornering the market once again with their puppet propaganda mouthpieces. I think its more likely that Rogan will start being targetted by the same 'lawfare' and backroom bullying of its platform that most other alternative media are suffering.

But its definitely true that Rogan is gonna be one hell of a hard target what with his vast fortune and apparent enjoyment of standing up to bullys. Here's hoping you're right and Rogan is able to stay on the air long enough to ruin the usefullness of 'BigMedia.' Its certainly possible, I just think unlikely and certainly not gonna happen soon.

 

I admit it... I am biased..... to some degree this is my wife's fault for introducing me to the gifted Kim Clement......
I am convinced that either from the Spring of 2022..... or perhaps from the Spring of 2023....... we will go into the most off the scale positive two or three years since Thirty One C.E. when the events of the first chapters of the Book of Acts took place!!!!!



Two President, dealt with by Spring and CANCER DEFEATED within two years.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-and-cancer-defeated-within-two-years.584457/

Or.... collaborate with Chinese operatives in Venezuela, Toronto, Iran and other nations to steal the USA 2020 election!!!!

 

Its a lot easier for a PERSON (who can say and do anything... they can say the earth is flat if they think people will buy it) than a video... which will tell the truth that the earth is actually round.) The fact that the altercation started with a Rosa Parks comment in no way changes that it morphed into a COVID argument. If they had been arguing about football and it developed into a COVID episode of violence... football wouldn't change the fact that the immediate cause of the violence was Biden's COVID restrictions. The grabbing of masks, the spitting... was all due to COVID.

 

The part that confuses me is how most people don't even know this or care to know it. Pharma reps make a TON of money wooing doctors to put the pretty pamphlets in their offices and exam rooms. That wouldn't happen if they weren't raking it in.

On top of that, they spend a ton of money silencing the little guys. Look at how many came out the woodwork to denounce any and every alternative for COVID mitigation. And, modern medicine isn't even that old. Natural and homeopathic remedies have been around for centuries but people will dismiss it as useless snake oil every chance they get.

I lived in IL and back in the early 2000s, police officers and bounty hunters were literally running all the midwives out of the state. They were basically stalking them night and day. It was madness. People had to uproot their lives and get their families to safer areas because it truly was a witch hunt. Of course, I'm not advocating that everybody with a shingle up is legitimate but there are regulations for midwives. They are NOT just randoms on the side of the road trying concoctions on people. That's asinine.

And, if you want the whole truth, I've given up trying to explain this to people. My former neighbor is one of the dumbest people I ever met and I've met some dumb people out there. I had to tell her to stop knocking on my door because I got sick of repeating myself. I have two kids and I don't repeat myself to them and a grown woman can't retain basic information? The last time I agreed to help her I told her that she had to bring her boyfriend so, between the two of them, with one brain cell, she'd figure it out. She was so annoying. And, they were loud so I'm glad they moved. One of my closest friends takes medications and has no idea what they are for? That's just crazy to me. Why would a person do that? Yikes.

One time I took my son to the Pediatrician because he had a boil on the back of his thigh. I treated it but was concerned so I took him in. His regular Pediatrician was off that day so a new guy showed up. He asked my son to lay on his stomach, put on his gloves and started to touch the area. My son said "No!" and tried to get closer to the wall away from the doctor. The doctor "It's okay honey. I'm a doctor." I stood up between him and my child and said "He said 'no.'" Looked him dead in the face basically daring him to try to go against me. I don't care who you are. You are not touching my kid if he does not want you touching him. I heard a comedian say something funny once so now I apply it to stuff like this. Basically, he said "This is how it's going to be. <Proceeds to lay out the boundaries> and adds "You decide if we make the morning paper, but that's going to happen." That's how I felt in that moment with my precious baby on that table. No, weirdo. Back up. Not my child. Not today, tomorrow or next week or never. He said "No." Full stop.

 

And Stalin was better than Hitler at mass murder... Which is to say, they're both still best avoided.

 

I've had it with COVID. Here in Texas vaxxing, masks, separation and all the rest is voluntary. Our shops, schools, beaches, restaurants are all wide open and have been for almost a year. I don't know anyone who died from COVID. Texas (here) is 38th in the country, state-wise, for China Virus deaths (per 100,000). I'm done with it. I have better things to worry about here in a normal world.

 

Maybe its just my own anecdotal circle of acquaintances, but it seems to me most people do understand a lot of what you mention until their political leanings get in the way. For some its absolutely a macheiavelian dynamic where the ends justify the means because surely once their political opponents are oppressed 'we can make things better again.' But for many its just the simple cognitive dissonance resulting from emotion standing in the way of reason. We're all being kept in a perpetual state of heightenned emotions (and covid is by far the most advanced and devastating example) specifically to undermine our ability to reason and make us more susceptible to accepting (being programmed with) inconsistent beliefs.

 

Looking for a roommate, man? I'd love to meet the people you are talking about. I don't have any of those around these parts. LOL

And, I don't really care what you say, there is absolutely no reason on Earth for anybody to be taking advice from a politician. None. It shouldn't matter who is in office concerning matters between your body and your doctor. That is absolutely ridiculous!!! I don't even understand why people buy stuff just because some random celebrity endorsed it. They are not demi-gods. Who cares what their opinion is on <whatever>? Their job is to pretend to be other people doing stuff on tv and in the movies. I don't care if they like Coke or Pepsi better. Why would anybody?

Here's a snapshot of my current deficit. One of my neighbors has bi-polar. He was diagnosed in his early 30s and has been on disability ever since. We are required to pay for cable with our rent each month. I forgot how much it is, but it's not much. He pays to have extra channels to the tune of about $130/month so he literally has money ONE day a month and is broke all the other days until the next month. One day he asked me if I could help him figure out what to do to get his license reinstated. Turns out it was suspended because he kicked a cop in some altercation and never went to the court date so it was revoked. I downloaded some practice test apps on his phone so he could prepare for the real test and he got upset. He brought his phone back to me and told me to "take that sh!t off my phone. I don't like it. The questions are too hard.!" Dude, you haven't had a valid license in 25 years. You're not going to know the current rules unless you study them. That is what practice tests are for. To this day, he refuses to try again and that happened before COVID came to town. Multiply that mindset by 100, add in cigarettes and beer, and women strolling at the truck stop and you've just met all my neighbors. Yeah, I'm a loner. LOL

I guess I just answered my own question. Now, I see why some people would take medical advice from the POTUS. It's suddenly clear to me.

 

I like Joe Rogan. He’s not even a Republican and he knows leftist MSM is FOS. Joe Rogan has more credibility than the entirety of “journalists” on CNN and MSNBC.

 

I hear this BS, and think, well, if they were publishers, and legally treated that way, you'd have a point. But, they aren't treated like publishers. They are like any other commodity service that MUST provide to whomever can pay for it If they started cancelling folks on the left, I assume you'd have an entirely different position. You seem to enjoy this woke power that tech giants and monopolists are exercising to control you. How very unlike you.

 

I wonder why knowing facts is what you'd refer to as "brainwashing". The only brainwashing I see is what the rest of MSM does on behalf of the NDP. Sorry you're so dismissive of the Indian data sets. I mean, you trust them as your call centers, though, no? I doubt you'd recognize truth if it hit you in the face.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Looks like death rate stats globally are not exactly accurate....sorry big guy but Rogan should stick to wrestling.

 

Sure. And how do you think your odds are about contracting aids when a contaminated needle is used?
I mean. Aids is just a virus as well.

 

You have no problem to be submitted to the rules of tech companies. I mean, you're here on this forum where personal attacks etc will get you a perma ban with ease. You can whine that it's a violation of free speech all you want.... somewhere else when you get that ban. There is nothing "woke" about it. That's just a right wing cheap false narrative when confronted that private businesses are allowed to have their own terms and agreements.

 

Which you voluntarily agree to when you check the TOS box when you sign up.

 

Wait. What did I miss?