World War II veteran's mail ballot application rejected twice, thanks to Texas voter suppression law

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  1. kriman

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    How do we know there has been no substantial fraud? Most fraud is discovered by accident.
    Do you deny you said there was fraud?
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is no evidence of fraud on any serious scale where it's a problem.

    Of course there are occasional occurrences, but that's it.

    In each and every audit they attempt to uncover fraud, it is never found beyond the occasional occurance.

    That has been the case throughout history, and one would think if there was massive fraud going on, that in the last 250
    years someone would have blown the whistle.

    But, alas, so such whistle has ever been blown.

    Why?

    Simple, there is no fraud on a scale where it's an issue in any election.

    And that makes sense, because fraud is usually committed by individuals for private and immediate gain.

    Such as, a fraudster sees a check arriving in someone's mail, steals it, and forges a check from it.

    Fraud almost always involves private and immediate gain, two important elements missing in the notion of voter fraud. Often times, when 'fraud' was uncovered, it wasn't actually fraud, but a mistake made by a voter, or a misinterpretation. Such as the lady who was the wife of Mr So and So, who has since passed away, and voted as his wife using his name, and forgot to check off 'mrs' instead of 'mr.' on the ballot. Here, the auditors initially thought it was 'dead person voting' fraud, but it turns out, a simple error. Things of this nature.

    Funny how that logic eludes republicans.
     
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    Noooooo.... your messiah crime boss Joe says there is no doubt there is fraud... during an election he won... so the federal government has to take over... How dare you question our election process or our dementia ridden leader.... you will be banned from twitter...
     
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    Have they ever gone to a large sample of peope who according to the records, say they voted and then asked them, if they voted? Have they ever gone to a large sample of people, who according to the records, did not vote and then ask them, if they voted?

    Until they have done that on a large scale, we have no assurances that there was no fraud.
     
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    The fact Biden got 80 million votes is proof significant voter fraud exists. The loony left even admitted how they did it in a Time magazine article.
     
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    Thanks, but, I can't take your scenario explanation seriously. Your posting history is deeply partisan and you believe The Big Lie so.............pass.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No argument is presented. Fail.

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  8. Patricio Da Silva

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    Please reread the prior post. I'll repeat it's salient elements.

    If there were evidence of massive voter fraud, one would expect that sometime in the last 250 years, someone would
    have blown the whistle.

    Alas, no such whistle has ever been blown.

    ANd the reason is simple, there is none

    And that makes sense, because fraud is usually committed by individuals for private and immediate gain.

    Such as, a fraudster sees a check arriving in someone's mail, steals it, and forges a check from it.

    Fraud almost always involves private and immediate gain, two important elements missing in the notion of voter fraud. Often times, when 'fraud' was uncovered, it wasn't actually fraud, but a mistake made by a voter, or a misinterpretation. Such as the lady who was the wife of Mr So and So, who has since passed away, and voted as his wife using his name, and forgot to check off 'mrs' instead of 'mr.' on the ballot. Here, the auditors initially thought it was 'dead person voting' fraud, but it turns out, a simple error. Things of this nature.

    Massive voter fraud is not even logical, given what the normal motivation for fraud is:

    Immediate and private gain.

    In elections, there is none for your average person.

    For political groups and businesses, there is, but they don't do via ballot tampering, they do it by external and legal means, voter suppression tactics.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    So, if trump gets 74 million votes, that's not fraud.

    But, if Biden gets a few more, that is fraud?

    Now that's looney logic.
     
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    The two audits showed plenty of fraud.... and the officials from both were caught deleting the files from those data bases as they are to be kept 22 months after the election... Maricopa officials actually testified they deleted the 2020 election data base from the system before handing the stripped election results with older elections still on it to Cyber Ninja... did anyone go to jail.... nope.... they said they did not think the 2020 data base was included in the subpoena to retain all data from the 2020 election... they "archived" it on a flash drive, which means they hid it from CN....
    and please present a whole other audit with the same data base from Maricopa data before you start your Cyber Ninja bashing garbage... grow a spin....

    and oh, oh ... listen to this video and save your condemnation of the gateway pundit for someone dumb enough to believe your liberal trashing...
     
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    Whatever makes him happy. One doesn't abandon election security in order to save one old man some inconvenience.
     
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    People have blown the whistle.
     
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    Fair enough. Maybe you can explain why it seems to be only democrat counties having problems? (Your deeply partisan posting history aside)
     
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    Plenty of signed affidavits at the risk of perjury.... not one investigation... unheard of in our history... and not one charge of perjury??? What is that all about?
     
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    Not one Republican state has reduced early voting..
     
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    Any backup for this specific claim? I don't believe it so I would need you to provide proof that your statement, bolded above, is solidly factual. You don't have to but that's your assertion.
     
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    Well except in Ca where shop lifting is a sport.
    The notion that there is very little voter thought exist because most of it isn't even tested for.
     
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    Their brothers and sisters in the cemetery’s more than make up for them.
     
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    Read them and find out. I merely link them to disprove your post's claim.
     
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    You are the last person to be the one to "fail" anyone.. It is starting to become a childish response. Over and over...

    The white house tripped all over themselves to go into clean-up mode to cover for this clown...
    Time and time again they cry "clean-up aisle 4" after a Biden speech... I am so embarrassed that this dementia riddled old man is your president..

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...rks-by-president-biden-in-press-conference-6/

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    A "few more"?
    No, but this post is.
     
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    B.S from top to bottom... rambling non-sense... you failed..

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  25. Patricio Da Silva

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    Then provide the evidence, because I've yet to find it.
    This has been debunked. If you are so wrong on such a fundamental data point, one that a cursory search on the internet would have provided, then why should I even continue this conversation with you? You simply do not do your homework.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...county-database-was-not-deleted-idUSL2N2N8266
    False: From the above link:
    VERDICT
    False. The Maricopa County databases for the 2020 general election were not deleted before an audit. According to the county elections department, the auditors did not correctly retrieve the data from the system. One of the firms hired in the audit later confirmed they were able to see the data.
    Moot point per above and no, they didn't hide it. .

    GP is being sued for defamation, they have the worst rating on MBFC, I mean the worst, the lowest factual rating, and the most biased left to right rating, with the indicator slamming all the way to the right.

    I'll accept moderately biased sources that get a factual rating of 'mixed' or higher. But not this:

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