New Pfizer drug and ivermectin

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  1. Richard The Last

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    Ivermectin did not win a Nobel Prize.
     
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    Please disregard my post at #101. After rereading the OP I realized I misunderstood the sentence: "Ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in 2015 (for humans)."

    One note on that awarding of the Nobel Prize. It was awarded to William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura for their discovery that Ivermectin could be used against parasites not viruses.

    There are many reliable sources that will tell you that Ivermectin, as a Covid-19 medicine, is ineffective.
    https://today.uconn.edu/2021/10/ive...ze-winning-wonder-drug-but-not-for-covid-19/#
     
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    One other note:
    William C Campbell PhD, one of those 2015 Nobel Prize winners, was actually working for "Big Pharma" when he made Ivermectin. Oh yeah, that Big Pharma company, working with the World Health Organization, donated the drug to the countries that were in need of it.
     
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    And it was not ivermectin per se but the group of anti parasitics Avermectin
     
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    You actually believe that Trump did something benevolent, Wow. If it helps you sleep at night...whatev.


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    Spoiler alert: He showed you cultists exactly what he thinks of you.


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    @Zorro...here's more of Orange Jesus selflessness (read: pathetic narcissism).


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    He wouldn't even join the other former POTUSes to get the vaccine on camera. That shows of all that don't wear double-thick blinders that he doesn't give a damn our country or us.

    Why should he? He paid $750 in taxes for two consecutive years and got the TOP OF LINE medical care at one of the best hospitals in the country.

    But, you better believe he paid the full amount for his China taxes. You all don't even care that he was kissing Xi's @ss in 2020 while they were denying investigators access to the Wuhan Lab. Those of us that don't worship him know exactly where his "loyalty" is.


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    If you want to engage in Trump Derangement Syndrome, do you really have to take over another topic to do it? Aren't there thousands of topics wholly devoted to Trump, or are you not free to start a new one? I found the OP interesting and would be happy to discuss it further, but, when you do this, it kind of feels like you just puked all over my shoes. You are free of course to post whatever you wish, but if you are just going to do another of the million freak outs over Trump that we've all tired of, please address it to someone else.
     
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    I simply quoted from your link and your implication that Trump tried to buy the company, when your very own source makes plain that the Trump administration tried to buy it order to get the vaccines under study for the American People. Further, this isn't news. The Germans complained bitterly at the time and we widely discussed it, at the time. Do you see the date on your source?

    Further, you also are diverting the topic from the OP.

    Here is the appropriate topic, from 2 years ago.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-coronavirus-vaccine.569582/#post-1071514819

    Do you really have to divert yet another topic to TDS?
     
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    And please, please, whatever you do don't tell anyone that one of the Nobel Prize winning PhD's was Irish and the other Japanese. If people in the US find out that it was not created by Americans their heads will explode.
     
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    Ivermectin is also part of a family of natural products called the avermectins, isolated from soil actinomycetes, and has been used safely for decades. It's not a 'virus destroyer' (because viruses don't exist), but rather has powerful anti-inflammatory properties. It's also anti-parasitic, and also thins the blood so it enhances blood circulation. This is why people on it feel & get better.

    There are other great blood thinners one can use as a prophylactic (and long term) - like garlic, nattokinase, serrapeptase, and DMSO for example. I use DMSO daily because it has numerous other benefits, and want to protect myself from wireless radiation (cell towers, wifi, etc.) as well as from any residuals from vaccines I had to take years ago for school (before I knew about how bad they were, and that they were based on the pseudoscience).
     
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    Dr. McCullough reports that some are having success with Nattokinase supplementation in getting rid of the harmful spike proteins produced by the shots. That's a good thing.
     
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    Funny though how there is no research showing that it is successful and before you start claiming that it is because the pharmacy industry suppressed the research a fair bit of that was done by government run labs of countries that have a UHC. Any country with a UHC falls over itself to find the cheapest option
     
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    9 peer-reviewed studies conclude that Ivermectin is a powerful, highly-effective anti-cancer drug
    https://thecovidblog.com/2022/04/11...a-powerful-highly-effective-anti-cancer-drug/

    There are currently at least 96 studies, with 78 being peer-reviewed (as of February 1, 2023), showing that Ivermectin is highly effective in treating COVID-19 in early stages, late stages, and as prophylaxis (preventative measure).
    https://thecovidblog.com/ivermectin/

    Proceedings of the Japan Academy, Series B Physical and Biological Sciences
    Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

    Dr. Elizabeth Eads is on the frontline of medicine, treating patients who have been injected with the experimental CV19 so-called “vaccines.” Dr. Eads has been seeing first-hand cases of vaccine-induced AIDS. She also talks about her success treating thousands with Ivermectin. (Note: Dr. Eads believes in viruses, but her warnings about the covid vaccines are important)
    https://speedtheshift.org/2022/03/2...-get-aids-from-vax-by-fall-dr-elizabeth-eads/
    https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220326/14573914/Dr-Elizabeth-Eads-Millions-will-get-AIDS.htm

    Dr. Shoemaker - Ivermectin saves lives; but the so-called covid "vaccines" are deadly.
    https://drtrozzi.org/2022/07/14/dr-shoemaker-12-minutes-with-rebel-news-exceptional/

    The Journal of Antibiotics
    Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

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    There seems to be something about 'de-wormers' that's effective against cancer. Here Joe Tippens shares his cancer story and protocol about a cheap dog de-wormer (Fenbendazole). He's shared this information with thousands of others who have benefited.

    How Joe Tippens Beat Terminal Cancer with $7 Dog Medicine — Interviewed by James Templeton
    https://lifeboat.com/blog/2019/12/h...7-dog-medicine-interviewed-by-james-templeton
     
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    The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet has today decided to award the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with one half jointly to William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura for their discoveries concerning a novel therapy against infections caused by roundworm parasites and the other half to Tu Youyou for her discoveries concerning a novel therapy against Malaria.

    The bioactive agent was purified and named Avermectin, which was subsequently chemically modified to a more effective compound called Ivermectin. Ivermectin was later tested in humans with parasitic infections and effectively killed parasite larvae (microfilaria). Collectively, Ōmura and Campbell’s contributions led to the discovery of a new class of drugs with extraordinary efficacy against parasitic diseases.

    https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/
     
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    What a brilliant display of pharmaceutical ignorance!!!
     
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    Curiosity question: Would not 'government run labs' have a tendency to have findings in line with the position of the entity who 'signs their paycheck'?

    Another question: If viruses are parasites, would an anti-parasite medication help address the parasitic infection?

    Structure and Classification of Viruses - PubMed (nih.gov)
    Virus | Definition, Structure, & Facts | Britannica
     
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    Interesting. I wasn't aware Dr. McCollough had reported that.
     
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    You once again circulate false information. This is tiresome and so is responding to you as you make it clear you will circle back and repeat the same false information over and over as if it is you.

    The end. Someone else can respond if they like. You can't even be bothered to provide a shred of medical evidence or a proper footnote/reference for the bullshit you pass off.
     
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    The false info quoted from the citation the poster was too lazy to provide is:

    https://petermcculloughmd.substack....20McCullough%20Nattokinase&utm_medium=reader2

    Its repudiated false info being recycled.

    It states and I quote:

    "The mRNA and adenoviral DNA products were rolled out with no idea on how or when the body would ever breakdown the genetic code."

    The above is a classic example of subjective bullshit. The person quoted as saying this has zero proof of the above lied-he out and out lied. Its a classic statement made without any evidence to advance the theory that pharmaceutical researchers did not research the above when they did.

    Of course they did and its based on medical information anyone can find online, i.e.,:

    https://theconversation.com/what-ha...body-a-road-map-for-kids-and-grown-ups-164624

    https://www.nature.com/scitable/top...-in-dna-determines-cellular-function-6523228/

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/apm.13294

    https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/spike-protein-behavior
     
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    To further counter the false information circulated in the article being quoted by an anti vaxer claiming
    Nattokinase is a cure for Covid 19, understand the article being quoted is false and dangerous and provided zero medical evidence of any of the effects. It says they should be looked into it doesn't definitely show it works.

    There is a plethora of info out there to explain why the article is full of crap and is yet another false alternative cure claim with zero medical proof.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...hat-this-study-really-showed/?sh=35c843e4232f

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...-spike-proteins-in-the-vaccinated-or-infected


    DO NOT TAKE NATTOKINASE WITHOUT SPEAKING WITH A PHYSICIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-nattokinase-89831

    https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/nattokinase

    Here is what makes this latest attempt at spreading false cures absolutely disgusting.

    The same person who quotes Peter McCollough is the same one who tells you not to trust the pharmaceutical manufacturers and any other doctor on this issue. So why does this Doctor get his magical blessing? The answer, because the person touting this doctor has a preconceived bias against any medical treatment he disagrees with.

    Look again at this doctor:

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93936

    Let us be clear that this doctor not only misrepresents his affiliations but has stated and this comes from the above article:

    "In several media interviews, McCullough has spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments. He has claimedopens in a new tab or window that there is no scientific reason for healthy people under 50 and those who have recovered from COVID to get the vaccine, and has asserted that 50,000 Americans have died from the shots. According to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systemopens in a new tab or window (VAERS), there have been 6,490 opens in a new tab or window deaths after COVID vaccination -- and it's unclear if the immunizations were the actual cause of death in these cases."
     
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    Finally let's be clear on why the article you are being told to believe is dangerous and false. This is why the person behind the article has been repudiated for what he has said:

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...id-19-rare-cases-myocarditis-western-journal/

    https://debunkingdenial.com/the-disinformation-dozen-source-of-lies-about-covid-vaccines/

    https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiologist-makes-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccination

    THE INFO I AM REPUDIATING ADVOCATES USING A SUBSTANCE AS AN AGENT TO COMBAT COVID 19 BUT IS NOT A CURE FOR COVID 19 AND COULD SERIOUSLY HARM CERTAIN PEOPLE IF INGESTED. DO NOT TAKE IT UNLESS YOU ARE BEING SUPERVISED BY A PHYSICIAN ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE OVER 65, HAVE ANY KIND OF CARDIO VASCULAR ISSUE, DIABETES, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, OR ARE GIVING IT TO A CHILD!
     
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