The second amendment whats it mean to you

Do you spend much time running into attackers?
If so you have a serious problem with your society which is made all the worse by guns.
Still I fear it is too late. If I ever want to watch a real life western, I shall buy a ticket to the USA and watch you all kill each other, just like the gladiators of old.092

I know.
Next time I want to have a lived in (extistential) experience I'll grab my cowboy hat, saddle up my horse and ride out to the nearest high street.
What else was a gun used for except to murder the indigenous population and shoot their buffalo? Use it to keep trespassers from crossing your 5000 acres of land and to steal what you want.
I mean with such a glorious history, a gun is precisely what you should keep of your past.

 

Not so much. And I usually manage to get out of a conflicting situation without using violence.

Nope, here in Lower Saxony, Germany, most people are unarmed. We have very restrictive gun laws here but criminals usually don't care about gun laws.

 

I voted 'only if you're part of a militia.'


10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes
(a)
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Now ask yourself if you think any politician's or legislator's career would survive an attempt to enforce discluding women, the elderly or the disabled from participating in militia... I posit they would not. Thus, in the US, all adults are effectively 'the unorganized militia' and may bear arms as such.

 

Terrorists tend to bear arms regardless of whether they have a legal right to or not... allowing everyone else to do so as well is a check against terrorists, not support for them.

 

No. But they should be. But thats really more an issue of failure of the justice system. What we call 'corrections' doesn't really correct anything. Either someone is a danger to society or they're not. The justice system seems largely uninterested in even trying to make that distinction, and is really just a 'punishment' system. People who have been punished should stop being punished, OR we should have a system objectively interested in discluding those dangerous to society from society instead. Our 'punishment' system is not designed to disclude in that manner, and until we decide to design it that way, there isn't much basis for preventing felons from their right to bear arms. Right now its just an ongoing and forever punishment that we levy in addition to what we actually sentence them to.

 

8 fingers and 2 thumbs.

 

The problem is that most of them lack any support from the American people. Just see the Capitol Rioters that fought for the loser DJT. Such madmen don't deserve to bear firearms.

 

Well I spend a lot of time in Jacksonville flon the west side .You should try it . huge crime problem lots of armed robbery's murders a true liberal paradise, also I was a public safety officer for a school and carried a gun I was shooting guns at a very young age about 6 years old and until I got sick and hurt I was a hunter my entire life and enjoy target shooting and bench rest shooting and cowboy action shooting . Its a hobby and fun. Guns were used to create this nation and gain our independence other wise you would be talking with a english accent and saying pass me a *** and dont piss on the kings highway mate.

 

How do you think counter terrorist operations work? One tactic is to take away their arms.

Okay but that doesn’t get to my point.

 

You may not have fully grasped the motivation of those wishing to migrate legally and illegally. Seeking a better life, yes, but to seek because of a constitution? That's wishful thinking.

Never known a country where their constitution and amendments are discussed on an hourly basis.

 

They spoke about it plenty. We know their exact intent. Do you know who Tench Coxe is? Or the Pensilvania Gazette? Or who owned the Pennsylvania Gazette? Do you know their historical importance?

 

You’re basically right. The federal nor the state governments have power to regulate the peoples right to bear arms either. That was the original intent.

 

Indeed as the government wanted to be able to call on or use civilians in a time of war or invasion and for the people to be able to stand up to a corrupt government if needed and defend them self against others

 

Yes. There are many quotes from our founder that suggest this.

 

Individuals had guns in their homes and were called out in a minutes notice.....thus the name 'Minutemen". It is the same today. These were, in most cases, never government supplied arms. They were personal arms.

 

I would rephrase that and say, "the individual" is what our nation was built on.

 

Yes that's true that individual had a lot to do with it and freedoms and rights our constitution allows . But guns gained our freedom and allow us to continue to be free from being bullied

 

Once again I have no issue with gun sports.
But I find it incomprehensible that you make a sport out of potentially killing someone.


Guns were used in every revolution up until the 20th century. Only the USA still thinks they live in the 18th.
Every other country which used guns...and that is ALL of them, have moved on and not used history to justify the present. Otherwise you will be feeding criminals to the lions in arenas.

 

and who on earth was going to bully you?? Mad King George from the other side of the world?
This whole justification for guns is a poor effort at trying to make the behaviour some patriotic duty.
An effort to make out you are some continuation of the heroes of your history. People do that in pageants once a year, not live it every day of their lives.
Carrying guns is some larger than life reason why you still have to do it 250 years later in a completely different world on a completely different stage? I suppose it makes you feel more of a man, does it? more connected to the glorious revolution and the association is an automatic tick in the box of your thinking your revolution was any different than other people's revolutions.

It wasn't. The French don't go about building guillotines or shouldering Charleville muskets or sticking bayonets down their stockings. They have other ways to protect themselves from being bullied.

Tell you what. 250 years ago men were living in log cabins and growing their own food. How about carrying on with that behaviour which also secured your place in the New World.

 

Why? The rioters didn't bring their guns...

 

Can you cite some specific examples?

...can you cite more examples than I can cite of our govt arming terrorists?

Which was?

 

Some Americans want to do with our guns and way of life, that which they did to Native Americans. Which is to drive them from the face of the earth and trample them under their feet like Autumns leaves. They can't fathom our equality. They think they are Pharaohs. Fortunately for us, the Constitution is our voice, friend and ally. And not only in the right to keep and bear arms, but to speak the truth freely. They want to go beyond regulation of firearm liberty in which we are already brimming with regulations, and utterly denude the liberty tree of the right to keep and bear arms. What will go next? Perhaps they will lop speech and religious liberty or maybe the entire tree, and rule with an iron fist.

Liberty is a dangerous affair. Seeing that the bulk of the nations crime and murders are in big cities being run by liberals. Then it would be more effective and to the root of the matter to ban liberalism than guns.

 

Kranes56 said: ↑
How do you think counter terrorist operations work? One tactic is to take away their arms.

That is after you have found them and by then it is usually too late.
Counter terrorism is largely done electronically by following the trail of internet usage or by CCTV camera or planting police officers.. I dont remember an incident when a law officer walked up to a would be terrorist and demand he give over his backpack. Though of course I can only speak for those incidents made public in the media.

 

Are you suggesting that the Native American Indians are planning a coup to reclaim their rightful place as true guardians of the land?
In the light of the desire to relive the past, you will of course be restricted to bows and arrows.

 

Rookie numbers.