Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. st256

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    And what is happened? Had you decided that burned alive people in Odessa is OK?
     
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    Did you read statements of Donald Trump about it? If not, do it ... and tell me which sort of drugs did this old senil man take to give such BS as statement about Ukraine now!

    And yes ... the US is not ivolved and better did not involve themself into it.... I agree here :)
     
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    Hmm... You are an American... For you money is most important in your life. We, Russians, are different. Maybe because of it our state is over 1000 yeas old.
     
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    I did read what he said. I agree. There are two sides to every story, and it appears may you only want to tell one of them.

    As to your statement about staying out of it. That decision is ours, and is based on solely on the fact that it's none of our business. If we decided it was, that would be Putins biggest fear. He has made that known.
     
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    More to do with the fact that you don't have money.

    The average income in Russia is $12,000 a year, which is well below poverty levels in the United States.

    I'm not criticizing, but the statement about Americans centralizing money in views of important life issues is paramount to our ability to have an average income several times that of Russia.

    Yes, financial security is important.
     
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    A heck of a lot more of your conscripts already burned alive in the last 48 hours than the amount of people in Odessa during that event.
     
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    Bullshit? No facts. Putin's invasions of Ukraine took place when Trump was not president. When Obama and Biden were president.
     
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    Sanctions... have they worked in the past? How did it play out?

    Sanctions against North-Korea:
    Reason was: them not having nukes
    Regime change: no
    Uprising: no
    Outcome: they got them, and going forth with tests

    Sanctions against Cuba:
    Reason: butthurt about losing their business where they slaved around the Cubans
    Regime change: no
    Uprising: no
    Outcome: nothing changed

    Sanctions against Iran:
    Reason: previous agreement wasn't good enough
    Regime change: no
    Uprising: hardly
    Outcome: they started to create higher grated nuclear material

    Sanctions against Iraq
    Reason: lies about WMD
    Regime change: no. It had to be done by force
    Uprising: small, civilians lost their marshlands where they lived when Irak drained it
    Outcome: half a million dead children due to lack of access to uncontaminated water

    Previous sanctions Russia:
    Reason: annexing the Crimea
    Regime change: no
    Uprising: no
    Outcome: the Russians are going for 2nd's.



    Well well....
     
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    Russian troops move in an out of Ukraine during all of Trump presidency and he didn't do ****. He was too busy giving Putin a knob job.
     
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    Showing your total lack of knowledge! Until yesterday there was no Russian Invasion into Ukraine ... only on the Crimea and this was for me totally OK btw ...
    But no wondering ... Trump had crawled deep enough into Putin's ass and had been cuddling him long before he took office.
    That's proven, but that's evidence you totally ignore because it would shake your belief in the bastard Trump!
    Believe me, if Trump fatally slips up tomorrow morning, 90% of the world will party! So much for the moron!
     
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    If that was so, I doubt the Chechnyans would be having mass celebrations on Vladimir Putin's birthday every year for saving them from the terrorists - nor would they be willing to give their lives fighting and helping Russia these past years.

    More than likely it was the terrorists with their embedded CIA agents that were raping and doing the executing. But that's not what you're going to be told, after all we do have the distinction of being an 'Empire of Lies', as well as an 'Empire of Chaos.'


     
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    Russia had troops in Donbas and Crimea. Crimea was Ukraine! They sent troops into Crimea Feb 2014 when the magic negro was president and the idiot racist was VP. They sent troops into Donbas August 2014.

    Then a full scale invasion with senile Joe Feb 2022. Putin knows who the weak one is.

    Tell me with facts how Trump cuddled Putin. Go ahead genius. So making NATO militarily stronger was cuddling Putin?

    Trump implored Germany and other European countries to not buy Russian energy. These are not disputable facts.

     
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    We have a video of an American president "cuddling" Russia. It's not Trump!

     
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    The picture is a joke about the US sanctioning itself to show how crazy we are (so don't mess with us!) Our race to get involved in the conflict will cause the US a self inflicted wound. We should be getting out of international entanglements like NATO and the WHO as on balance, they are harmful to us.
    Sort of like this... upload_2022-2-25_9-54-13.png
     
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    If only...
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    In who’s opinion? An imperialist dictator? LOL

    Even Lenin didn’t believe that.


    Sure. Only Ukrainian loyalist have killed in Donbass. Separatists are passing out candy and signing Kumbaya.

    It’s a civil war in Donbass. By your logic every entity that has waged war should be “stopped”. What war hasn’t killed civilians? How many civilians has Putin killed? Geez.
     
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    “Recapture” a geographic area internationally recognized as Ukraine that Russia took by force. Hello!
     
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    It's still better than Trump. He is in full admiration that Putin invaded Ukraine.
     
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    I don't doubt he thinks it hilarious that this nation's competition finds that with a sleepy empty senile whore propped up in power, they can pretty much do as they please as, since Trump *honk honk* "lost" the 2020 election and therefore the US no longer has competent leadership.
     
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    Exactly!
    If Ukraine manages to defend Kyiv in the next day or two, they should be able to push Russians out and reclaim entire Donbas and Crimea.
    Russians are loosing thousands of people and hundreds of units of armored vehicles. If Ukraine knocks the wind out of them and goes into attack then Russians will be screwed. I know, this is borderline wishful thinking, but I think there is a solid chance that Ukraine can pull it off.
    They lost any remaining fear of russia - today they bombed a Russian air base in russia proper - how many countries can get away with that?

    RUCK FUSSIA! :machinegun:
     
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    :banana:
     
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    Ukraine has no rights to Crimea. It doesn't matter what the whole world recognizes there. Crimea is Russia, and Russia will not give it up without a war. And with NATO, only nuclear war is possible.
     
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    I hope you are right. Most likely I see a quagmire like we had in Iraq.
     
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    The US was willing to start WWIII if the Russians were going to deploy nuclear bombs on Cuba. The US had no legal right to do such a thing, but they felt threatened and did it anyways. Russia negotiated and they made a trade to not have nukes on Cuba as well as not have nukes on Turkey.

    Russia feels threatened by the idea that NATO supports Ukraine's right that they at one point join NATO so NATO forces can be at the Russian border protected by a nuclear umbrella. And in this case the US doesn't give a damn about it. So Russia followed through. And yeah... Russia previously just gave historical parts of it's empire away, and due to the threat, it now is taking it all back.

    Let's get one thing straight. The US recently attacked Iraq over a so called imminent threat as well.
    Hello?
     
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    Russian propaganda isn't as profitable as it used to be. Maybe look into a community college.
     
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