Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

Odessa is waiting:

 

The problem is that Putin (no matter what you think of him) does actually represent the people of Russia (the majority), more so than either Biden or Trump.

p.s.
what I said shouldn't be taken to mean:
a) without the apparatus of state propaganda, most Russians would have been eager to see Russia invade Ukraine or would have supported the invasion No more than most Americans who were led and misled to support the invasion of Iraq with far less factually based propaganda to guide them in that direction.
b) that they cannot sour on the wisdom of this invasion as its costs all around (human lives, casualties, economic, geopolitical) mount. The same way a majority who supported the invasion of Iraq, soured on the idea despite the costs to the US being comparatively far less.

 

I believe you are confused.

 

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Yeah . US only lost 4400 during the war in Iraq .. . its tougher when you are trying not to kill too many civilians .. Good that Russia is not laying waste to the Ukraine the way we did in Iraq ..

 

You're right, the Russians are hindering the rescue of the Azov Nazis in Mariupol. From what I read 60 to 80 thousand of them are trapped in a Cauldron and all the Russians have to do now, is keep them from killing the civilian populations in retaliation. The Chechnyns are helping, and have entered Mariupol and doing the urban fighting so the civilians can escape. .

In the meantime, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine finally admitted that all of the Azov Sea is now in Russian control. The Kherson area is also in Russian hands and I believe they will hold a referendum as to whether they want to be independent of Ukraine like Donetsk and Lugansk. Most of the towns along the Black Sea Coast are in Russian hands, and the battle has started for Odessa,

There was another attack today on the civilians in Donetsk by the Nazis in their scorched earth policy. I believe 4 people were killed and there were many wounded as well.



Here's a video of an old woman kissing the Russians soldiers for freeing her from the Ukrainians. She said she lived in fear for such a long time.

https://twitter.com/TamrikoT/status...-tis-kai-agkaliazei-rosous-stratiotes-vinteo/

 

Pic credit- @EmineDzheppar/Twitter

 

No mate .. you the one confusing the meaning of the word "apologize" in your desperate attempt to deflect from your apology for atrocity .. war crimes, crimes against humanity, rape, forced marriage, genocide... the things for which your Boys are so famous .. and that you helped facilitate .. which perhaps explains why you exist in a state of denial .. maybe not though .. could be something else .. need a fair number of courch sessions to resolve this one.

 

As I said, you are confused.
But help is available.
Some Russians are breaking through Putin’s digital iron curtain — leading to fights with friends and family
By Cat Zakrzewski and Gerrit De Vynck

 

bout what .. taring others with your failure again .. so gobsmacked you can't even state what the confusion is .. just running around crying "Confused Confused .. everyone is confused" - in a desperate attempt to apologize for war crimes and atrocity.

Looks like some of them Russians not being sucked in by the Propaganda .. something to learn from them you have.

 

Not killing civilians has nothing to do with why so many Russian soldiers are dying, especially in light of the fact that Russian forces are bombing the hell out of civilian buildings.

 

Bandera was not Nazi, but rather nationalist. In fact, he spent several years in a concentration camp.

 

Hmmmm, this is a tuffy. Let's break down your reply.

Tell me again exactly WHO was fighting the Soviets????

Oh, yeah, the NAZIS.

Okay...fighting alongside NAZIS...does that make him a Nazi collaborator? Collaboration = working with others for a common goal.

Well if he wasn't a Nazi collaborator then he was an actual Nazi. Take your pick. He was still a POS and now he's Ukraine's hero.

 

Where does Russia go from here?

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Now fighting in the City of Mariupol.

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Take that and they have secured the East and can push West to Mykolaiv and then Odessa, Ukraine's main Black Sea port.

Pushing north towards Dnipro and linking with Russian forces pushing south from Kharkiv and Ukraine’s forces fighting in the east would be enveloped.

Once Russia controls the east and gain full access to working road and rail lines connecting to Russia, they can establish large forward supply dumps for the assault on Kyiv.

Extrapolating from current Russian losses and rate of gain, after 2 months of war and 60,000 in losses they still won't have taken the capitol.

Figure another month to take Kyiv, if not 6, and the Russian invaders will be at 50% losses after 3 months, these are not the stats of a winning military.

More likely, once he's taken Dunipro and cut of the Ukraine Army in the East, Putin demands the partition of Ukraine.

Hunter was being paid $Millions by Russian Oligarchs. Putin knows this, and certainly has shared this with Diaper Boy as well as the receipts. So Biden will want Zelensky to agree to this "compromise" to end the conflict, but, if Zelensky has the arms to continue fighting, he will, which is why Biden is making sure that he will not have the arms necessary to take back the lost territory and will strongly "urge" him to accept Putin's terms.

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Course it does .. Russian's not bombing nearly as many civilian buildings as good Ol USA.. You are just mistaking the volume of propaganda for volume of civilian deaths. The news covering the same building bombed 10 times a day does not mean 10 buildings were destroyed mate.

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2000/06/01/russian-atrocities-chechnya-detailed#

I was speaking of the Russian invasion in the eighties.
Here's a link for you:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-05-06-me-4493-story.html

Here's a link for this one:
https://www.aa.com.tr//en/world/azerbaijan-black-january-veterans-recall-soviet-atrocities/2116849

And finally:
https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/georgia-wins-legal-war-against-russia

All this stuff was relatively easy to find. Are you that lazy or are you outright lying?

Edit: One of my links was broken, so I deleted it.

 

Actually the Chechens have become very Russian lately, and are rescuing civilians and kissing babies.

The people of Russia did rise up. They showed how much they appreciated Putin freeing the Russian people and areas from the Nazis in a stadium - which of course is being censored by our 'Ministry of Truth'.

Yeah, but the resiliency of the Russianss is great. One of the corpses collected by Kiev decided to take a smoke.

No proof of that, and lots of proofs of the bombing and destruction of civilian areas by the Ukrainians in their scorched earth policy. Not that our Ministry of Truth will ever let you see it.

 

Meanwhile the Ukrainians keep showing themselves for what they are. And someone wants to boycott candy bars!

 

And here you tried to accuse moi of believing propaganda!

 

... While Ukrainian civilians, and even foreign journalists, are actually being killed indiscriminately by the Russians and you ignore this inconvenient fact.

 

What invasion of Chechnya in the eighties? It was still part of the Soviet Union. The wars were caused by terrorists from the Gulf and their embedded CIA agents to destroy Russia's Southstream pipelines in favor of Washington's Nabucco from the Caspian.

How about this show of gratitude towards Vladimir Putin for saving them: Oops! I was going to show you the massive celebrations of the Chechnians for Vladimir Putin's birthday, but the Ministry of Truth struck again. Funny how whenever I posted videos in the past to prove a point, they are suddenly not allowed in the US.

Do you think we have an agent among us?

1. Russia: Putin's B'DAY draws over 100,000 in Chechnya - YouTube
   
   
   

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Twice-poisoned Putin critic makes prediction about Russian government

Russian opposition politician Vladimir Kara-Murza speaks out about how Russia could possibly achieve regime change as the war in Ukraine continues.​

 

Let's back up a second.

You didn't say squat during the last 8 years when the Ukrainians were killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the Donbass for 8 frigging years before the MSM went off on their last fake news tangent.

You haven't said squat about the Ukrainians killing fighting age men indiscriminately if they don't want to fight.

You haven't said squat about the Ukrainians using foreign fighters (including Americans/Brits/EUs) as cannon fodder.

You haven't said squat about the Ukrainians putting bullets in the heads of foreigners...while receiving care in hospitals.

You haven't said squat about the constant barrage of fake news theater coming out of Ukraine made by Ukraine that is getting thousands of people killed for no reason.

You haven't said squat about Zelensky, his ties to Igor Kolomoisky or the millions or apparently a billion he has stolen since he became President of the armpit of Europe.

You have yet to denounce Stepan Bandera, his followers, Azov, C14, Aidar, Right Sector, Tornado or any Neo-nazi group in Ukraine.

My point being, I'm glad I'm not like you.

 

Even if we assume your claims are true in some cases, Russia is attacking a sovereign, democratic nation. Not the same thing.

We know what we see and your whatabouts are irrelevant. No matter how much you try to justify the slaughter of civilians it won't wash. We don't care what you say.

 

I don't care what you say either since you just parrot whatever the fake news tells you so I guess we're all good.

Don't talk to me about Ukraine being a 'democratic nation' when they (with US backing and planning) illegally ousted the last Democratically elected President Yanukovych in 2014. Since then, vast swathes of Ukrainians aren't allowed to vote.

The West caused this war and that's just the way it is. This war started in 2014, FYI.