Dems Become Everything We Were Told to Fear About Trump...

I agree this i exactly right. However it is neither new nor surprising. As you point out, populace authoritarianism showed its true and inexorable effects with the so-called French Revolution. The inevitable end of a progressive agenda is the vast majority of people living a consistently troublesome if not hellish life, while all of the power lies with the political elite and a few very large corporations and financiers. BTW this is why billionaires support authoritarian progressiveness because (consciously or subconsciously) they expect -- and rightly so -- to be part of the ruling class so, unlike the great masses, won't lose out. It is also the reason why smaller businesses will see a great demise; it is far easier to control business if it all resides in just a few entities that can easily be admitted to the ruling club.

 

Don't know how you came up with any that. Just throwin' it up against the wall hoping it will stick?

For the record the Soviets called their fellow travelers in the West "progressives", who called themselves "progressives":

Progressive Party - United States, 1948
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Progr...s=n&sk=&cvid=9E4EA436248941CDBE4D5BAD692F8B73

The Commies in the CPUSA still call themselves "progressives" and so do the socialists on the Left and in the Democratic Party who masquerade as "progressives".

It's a term they made up for themselves.

And I can't imagine how anyone, "Cold War boomer" or otherwise, could have possibly got it into their heads that communism is evil. Could it be on account of the estimated 100 million human beings who died in the USSR, Red China and other communist regimes during 20th Century and the hundreds of millions more who were enslaved by the communist. regimes? Perish the thought....

Don't know who "they" is, but from what I read MLK was a socialist of sorts, which would explain why some people may have called him a communist.

Nothing in your post surprises me, and Dems launched multiple coup attempts, from their Russia collusion hoax to their impeachment scams.

 

IOW, legalized murder.

 

Hmm.. Which simply avoids the question asked. Why avoid it then? Are you still going to support the state allowing for post partem infanticide?

 

So what was your alternative?

 

It seems as such. And its so sad. The state of Kaliformina won't criminalize child sexual abuse, and now, children can be viewed as so much of a drag that you can simply leave on in a dumpster to die and as long as it wasn't outside of the first 6 weeks, it's cool.

 

After Trump was elected, you would have thought the damn planet would implode. All the non-sense that was spewed.... and none of it came true.

Yet here we are, with this new administration.

How perceptions change.

 

Those medieval 14 year olds didn't become adults because they had advisory parents. They had dictatorial domineering parents.

 

Of course, DJT is a real criminal and unsympathetic dumbass, nobody wants him as president. Why can't Republicans nominate a credible candidate?

 

Don't most states have laws saying you can leave a child at a church, fire, police station with no problem?

 

Well, that might be true, but we are specifically discussing Kalifornia. That is where this latest bill was introduced, and it mirrors a similar law that was created in Maryland. So, specifically what is being legislated in this bill allows women to simply neglect to death their born offspring. I think it's abhorrent, which is why I brought it up.

 

I'm pro choice/body autonomy...so no mandatory vacc, no mandatory sterilization.

If a woman is forced to carry to term, then the state should pay child support. Otherwise it's the state that now neglects the child.

 

Of course, Dems became everything we were told to fear about Trump. A more appropriate and all-encompassing title for Alex Gutentag's article would have been "The New Totalitarians".

 

I really don't think you are following here. The bill is specific to once the child is born. Are you still going to suggest that the state should just ignore that infanticide when it is associable directly to that parent's neglect? Really?

 

This won't solve the republican problem either. They'll lose always if they don't come up with a candidate who's electable.

And DJT is burned forever. He had his chance but failed miserably.

 

They won't be ignoring it, if they are involved with the child.

 

This won't solve your deflection problem.

This thread is about DEMOCRATS and how DEMOCRATS have become everything we were told to fear about Trump.

If you want to prattle about Trump and the GOP, prattle about Trump and the GOP in a thread about Trump and the GOP. You'll have no problem finding or starting one...

 

Who is they, and a child left to die from neglect is being cared for by whom again?

 

Dems would never complain about DJT if Reps hadn't promoted this crazy un-American subhuman to a presidential nomination. It's not only the Dem's fault, as you might think.

 

Still off-topic, still irrelevant to the fact that Dems have become everything we were told to fear about Trump, and more. Of course, as I pointed out in the OP, "progressive" totalitarianism and authoritarianism is nothing new, it's just become more aggressive and prevalent here in America.

 

In your dreams.

 

I mentioned Joel Kotkin and his book briefly in the OP but it's worth a plug. It's a great book in large part because it is so meticulously researched books, and it's probably the most disturbing book I've read since Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Warning to the West:



The Coming of Neo-Feudalism
A WARNING TO THE GLOBAL MIDDLE CLASS
BY JOEL KOTKIN

Following a remarkable epoch of greater dispersion of wealth and opportunity, we are inexorably returning towards a more feudal era marked by greater concentration of wealth and property, reduced upward mobility, demographic stagnation, and increased dogmatism. If the last seventy years saw a massive expansion of the middle class, not only in America but in much of the developed world, today that class is declining and a new, more hierarchical society is emerging.

The new class structure resembles that of Medieval times. At the apex of the new order are two classes—a reborn clerical elite, the clerisy, which dominates the upper part of the professional ranks, universities, media and culture, and a new aristocracy led by tech oligarchs with unprecedented wealth and growing control of information. These two classes correspond to the old French First and Second Estates.

Below these two classes lies what was once called the Third Estate. This includes the yeomanry, which is made up largely of small businesspeople, minor property owners, skilled workers and private-sector oriented professionals. Ascendant for much of modern history, this class is in decline while those below them, the new Serfs, grow in numbers—a vast, expanding property-less population...

https://www.encounterbooks.com/books/coming-neo-feudalism/

 

I would recommend Mark Levin's latest book American Marxism. It is more down to earth and pragmatic than philosophical but Levin is a thorough researcher and scholar with tons of credibility (except for the progressives who bray that he stinks). The destruction of the third estate is a primary silent objective of the progressive/green movement -- Marxism by any other name.

I ordered a copy of Kotkin's book on your recommendation.

 

Yeah see this is what I mean. Boomers getting triggered because “communism evil” when they don’t know what communism is.

 

Laughable. We're all well familiar with this disingenuousness, from the lies and denials Stalin's apologist Walter Duranty spouted to the lies and denials Pol Pot's apologist Noam Chomsky spouted.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was well familiar with it, too, and he had nothing good to say about the "progressives" who indulged in it.