Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    Would love it if Putin attacked Poland. Try to convince him to do it now.
     
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    In addition to being fielded on Aegis destroyers, SM-3 Block IIA is also planned to be used by the Poland installation of Aegis Ashore by 2018. The range of this missile is 2500 km.
    <<<< And only sometimes information slips that, it turns out, it has been more than one year since SM-2 missiles (the SM-2 index was simply not changed to SM-4) can destroy targets on the surface of the sea and land at a distance of 500 km. >>>>>
     
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    are.....probably? In other words...aren't really.....presumably because they can't make water flow uphill...?
     
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    So these unknown numbers of surface-to-air missiles, which were planned to use by Poland in 2018, but no info if thy was used, will destroy Russia, right? When this moment of Russia destruction will come?
     
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    Large convoy on the move....still playing follow my leader
    Good targeting data, hopefully the Ukes have got some guys heading there....couple of well placed hits and the whole column just grinds to a halt...

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    Meanwhile the real news.....

    Hundreds (1,026) of Ukraine marines surrender in key port of Mariupol, says Russia

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/to...riupol-says-russia/ar-AAWatWQ?ocid=uxbndlbing

    LVIV, Ukraine (Reuters) -More than a thousand Ukrainian marines have surrendered in the besieged Ukrainian port of Mariupol, Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday of Moscow's main target in the eastern Donbas region which it has yet to bring under its control.
     
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    After a seven week siege! I assume your now going to argue that that was all part of the grand 'plan' from the beginning. Attack, wait seven weeks because 'why not' and then generously accept the surrender of soldiers who have resisted everything bar WMD that Russia was able to throw at them. And of course not a single Russian casualty was suffered in the process.

    Meanwhile, in the real world Russian is lurching into the third month of it's invasion of a nation with 3 to 4 times less it's population and industrial capacity and yet it still barely manages to control more than 5% of the territory it did before it started the war. At this rate it should conquer all of Ukraine (sorry 'denazify' it) somewhere about 2040! Does the term 'Winter War' remind you of anything?
     
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    No different than an attack from the baltic states already in NATO.
     
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    Focus on the real news. 1,026 Ukrainian soldiers surrendered. The rest of your post is completely irrelavant. It's your worthless opinion. Only a complete fool believes that the Russian troops started their operation with the aim of taking over the whole of Ukraine. For heaven's sake, Ukraine is double the size of Germany, 250,000 regular troops, trained by UK/US/NATO instructors since 2015, add to that 350,00-400,000 reserves that they immediately mobilised. Let me remind you that the Russians entered theatre with approximately 170-175,000 troops. Surely, even you, with your average IQ can see how stupid manistream media narrative is. Do the maths.
     
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    Only Russia objects.
     
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    There is not, and never has been, any threat to Russia from Ukraine.
     
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    I'm sorry, I thought Vladimir Putin had stated that the intended purpose of his 'special military operation' was the to de-nazification of Ukraine. Are you implying that there are no 'Nazi's 'in Ukraine outside of the Donbass region? Because Vlad didn't make that clear in his statements justifying this whole debacle.

    As for the rest? When precisely did 'entered the theatre' become a euphemism for invasion? I 'entered the theater' about a week ago. It was a very entertaining show. No-one was being invaded killed or raped though.

    And to remind you Russia is on the record as having approximately 280,000 full time, profession soldiers backed up by somewhere in excess of 600,000 reservists AND almost another 300,000 internal security troops.

    Maths you were saying?
     
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    The Ukrainians can fly and fight.
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    An MiG-29, a Soviet-era staple of the Ukrainian Air Force, is flown during an air show in Poland in 2015. (Reuters)
    Ukrainian fighter pilots in old jets take on better-equipped Russians
    By Isabelle Khurshudyan

    "O Ruler of the earth and sky
    Be with our airmen when they fly
    And keep them in thy loving care
    Amid the perils of the air
    O let our cry come unto thee
    For those who fly o'er land and sea. . . . "
     
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    True, but a massive coordinated assault plays to Russian strengths. One of which is in a lot of situations (like a large battle) the newer technology Russians will likely become decisive, in the air.

    The area they will be fighting in will make guerilla tactics harder to do. Russia is willing to take huge losses, but Ukraine can't afford to do the same.

    Color me worried.
     
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    Russia will be destroyed as soon as Pentagon analysts decide that a retaliatory strike will cause damage acceptable to the United States. Today, missile defense missiles are capable of destroying ground and surface targets. The range of the SM-3 missile is 2500 km. The installation of these missiles is aggression against Russia.
     
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    Russia is not obliged to wait for the appearance of NATO missiles in Ukraine. When they appear, it will be too late and Russia will be destroyed.
     
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    Ukrainians have demonstrated their ability to react very quickly when challenged.
     
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    If damaging the US was Putin's goal this war has been an epic fail.
    The war is rapidly expanding US influence around the world.
     
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    Russias leaders have routinely culled the Russian population.
    The Russian people have no choice at all.
     
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    Why keep talking about nuclear war as if Russia is really considering that. If he ever gets his ass out of Ukraine he has enough information on his warrior possibilities to understand the lunacy of escalating. Time to lick his wounds and try to fix his conventional forces, you know, build back better.
     
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    If that were the case, it would have happened a long time ago. It's actually pretty easy.

    Step One: Sink all soviet boomers at the exact same time.
    Step Two: Simultaneously have every B2 that the US has in soviet airspace, fully loaded, and release those nukes at the same time as Step One.
    Step Three, if necessary: Launch land based ICBMs at any targets that Step Two might have missed.
    Step Four, if necessary: Roll in armor, mech infantry, cav, and arty into russia from forward bases into eastern russia in a movement to contact. Based on what we now know about the "mighty" russian military, I expect we'd destroy any resistance before they even knew we were there. Simultaneously establish and maintain air superiority, especially over western russia.
    Step Five: Accept your unconditional surrender, destroy any remaining nukes, and help the survivors reestablish themselves as a pro-democracy, pro-freedom State that doesn't invade their neighbors for no reason.

    But none of that needs to happen, if yous guys would stop threating to nuke anyone who looks sideways at you and invading peaceful countries who pose no risk to your safety or sovereignty.
     
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    In the open country of the east the Ukrainians' overhead intelligence advantage will be even more pronounced.
     
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    The best way for Russia to avoid threats would be to establish friendly relations with neighboring states.
     
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