Derek Chauvin Appeals Murder Conviction, Claims Protesters Intimidated Jury

Minus the medical training of the officers, the victim pleading he couldn't breath, him falling unconscious while not breathing, and then him showing no pulse.. there was no reason for the officers to expect maintaining pressure on the body and neck instead of applying medical assistance would lead to death

 

Always, but what's that got to do with anything?

 

Precisely, death is no indication that death is likely

 

No. Just curious on what grounds you assert he was racist.

 

Are you referring to the same guy who said he couldn’t breathe several times even BEFORE they arrested him?

He had a pulse and he was breathing. Hence why he went into cardiac arrest AFTER he went into the ambulance.

So exactly what in the **** are you talking about? Because whatever it is, it wasn’t George Floyd Lol

Furthermore, go watch the show cops. There are literally THOUSANDS of videos of cops putting their full body weight on suspects for longer than 9 minutes. To assert he knew it was going to kill him is preposterous.

 

Precioussss... (watch right here).

 

The whole thing is recorded, the moment the officers first acknowledge he is unresponsive, the moment he stops breathing, and the moment he shows no pulse. The officers acknowledge each and every one of these critical signs, yet still refused to relieve pressure from the neck and body and apply medical assistance.

You are incorrect, watch the video, he stops breathing and stops showing a pulse while they were on top of him. The officers even acknowledge this in the video, and the medics who picked him up testified that he had no pulse when they arrived

 

You really think any part of that show isn't rehearsed and staged? No doubt you're a big fan of Cheaters, Jerry Springer and Dr Phil too, right?

 

The cops didn’t check his pulse. The paramedics did when they got there. They stated they couldn’t palpitate a pulse but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one. Furthermore it’s literally impossible for you to be alive for an hour without breathing. It’s not possible.

Brain and heart activity will COMPLETELY cease functioning LONG before an hour has passed with zero oxygen.

And no offense but the last thing you’re worried about as an officer is the safety of the criminal you’re arresting. Watch ANY activity by police. What is the process which they function? The first step is to identify the offender. The second step is to CONTROL the offender. The third step is to control the area and provide safety to the officers. The fourth step is medical care of the offender.

I concede they had steps one and two down. They did NOT have step three down and no paramedics. Given that the offender was complaining of not being able to breathe before they even touched him, what makes you think they had reason to believe he ACTUALLY wasn’t breathing?

I guess Floyd never heard the tale about the boy who cried wolf.

 

At the end of the day could an argument be made for excessive force. Sure. Can an argument be made for murder? Absolutely not. And it will be shown as such upon his retrial.

The idea Chauvin intended to kill Floyd is ridiculous. That’s why the prosecution attempted to tie Floyd and Chauvin to a nightclub Chauvin worked at. Because to have murder you must have INTENT to kill. He didn’t intend to kill him. If he intended to kill him he would have pulled his gun out and shot him when he was resisting arrest.

 

I tend to agree that he was not guilty of murder maybe manslaughter though.

 

Still waiting for an answer to that.

Anyone?

 

It’s not. I was on it.

 

And how much were you coached by your Producer? Go over it in your head. In the end, how much of a real experience were you communicating and how much was the product that was wanted? These shows are billion dollar industries, the major form of entertainment most people watch today and as slick as anything by Scorsese or Cassavetes in deriving and delivering the feelings they want. That doesn't mean they are unreal but simply that you have to be careful when using them as gauges in the everyday world.

 

I have no idea where you came up with any of that. It's a small film crew that rides along and sometimes things happen, some times it's a boring night. You can't script criminals into doing crime and then filming the arrest and put it on TV.

Seriously, you cannot possibly be this much of a conspiracy theorist.

 

Chauvin has only been convicted of 2nd degree murder in any case. IMO he should be convicted of first degree since he was a "trained professional " and pretty clearly knew he was killing Floyd and did so anyway, but provable intent is not a reason for his present conviction.

 

It's not a conspiracy . It's post-production.

 

What I highlighted in bold is exactly what you are arguing, in a roundabout way. That is, you are arguing that is exactly what George Floyd should have been in 2007. What I am arguing is simply what was the law on the books at that time. Furthermore, even if a person commits a burglary where a person is in the home, that may or may not be considered a burglary by habitation. It would be based on the intent of theft, which is not always the case in some home invasions that occur today.

But then again, Aaron Burr committed first-degree murder when he killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. Right? Or anyone who was caught lynching in the antebellum south on another person should be charged with first-degree murder, false imprisonment, and mutilation of a dead corpse.

 

the show isn’t scripted. It’s real, get over it. I was totally unaware people didn’t know this.

 

The worst possible thing that Chauvin was guilty of doing was committing involuntary manslaughter. Everything else was hysterical 'Black Lives Matter'-fabricated nonsense!

But, don't worry -- Chauvin will not get a new trial, and he won't get an early release from prison, either. If he did, the White-hating Black mobs would surge back onto the streets for even more orgies of rioting, arson, pillaging, and unlimited LOOTING....

. Ah... 'Summer in the City', Part II...?

 

They were handling him as was required by his own actions, they finally had him on the ground and he was no longer harming himself or fighting with them, that was the goal as they awaited the arriving any minute ambulance. Unfortunately for Floyd the drugs he ingested and his very bad health conditions caused his heart to give out and he died,

 

Sure it is.

No,, it's not scripted, it's selected coached and edited. Hours become minutes and the mundane becomes drama. Television is a show or people wouldn't watch.

 

Not according to the autopsy report. It was very minor and a contributing factor, along with heart disease. Furthermore, the medical examiner listed the cause of death as a homicide. Thus, fentanyl cannot be used as an excuse here.

Second, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty, even those who may have a record, any record. That being said, the whole point was the passing of a fake $20 bill. Chauvin did not even determine who money it was to begin with. He assumed, and assumptions are the mother of all fups.

 

Chauvin and George Floyd had a history together. Chauvin was moonlighting as a bouncer in some nighclub venue where George Floyd worked.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/n...says/531-7de89ed8-3806-4447-bd4a-74d26225d3ea

 

Right….not the actions of the 200+ pound man kneeling on his neck. It was the drugs and bad heart. So Chauvin was completely innocent and on no way responsible for the piece of chit Floyd’s death?