Famous Writer Argues The ‘Left-Wing Conspiracy’ To Take Out Trump Was ‘Warranted’

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  1. Space_Time

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    I'm not a Trump defender. But I found this interesting in light of the Left's proclaimed denial of the existence of conspiracies. Could this lead to more efforts by the Left to overturn election results:
     
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    I have to say, I was rather shocked by this. I've known who Sam Harris is for many years. He is what we would call a "public intellectual." Famously atheist and leftist, he misses being part of the establishment because of his views on Islam and IQ tests, which pushes him a little into "Dark Enlightenment" territory. I knew of course that he was anti-Trump, but after seeing those clips of him on twitter from that podcast, he is full on TDS, so much so he's willing to throw democracy in the toilet to keep Trump out of office.

    I think this has hurt his brand. He's going to have a hard time pretending to be Mr Reason would he sounds like an insane loon.
     
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    Well, and it admits that this is all a coordinated conspiracy to fix the 2024 election.
     
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    https://www.mediamatters.org/daily-...-gop-groups-while-its-subsidiary-participates

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/

    Bottom line - do not expect diamonds if you are digging through garbage
     
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    It is crackpot BS.

    You know your source is basically the National Enquirer, right?
     
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    This is why I'm not particularly worried about this. It's becoming undeniable that this is a conspiracy to rig the 2024 election.

    THE MASK DROPS: Anti-Trump writer Sam Harris admits the media tried to swing election for Biden—and actually defends it.

    "Well-known writer and podcaster Sam Harris admitted in a recent interview what many on the Right have long suspected: When the Hunter Biden laptop story about questionable emails and overseas business dealings broke right before the 2020 presidential election, the media, Big Tech, and the intelligence community did everything they could to censor or dismiss it in order to improve Joe Biden’s chances against Donald Trump."

    “Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement, I would not have cared,” Harris recently told the Triggernometry podcast. “There’s nothing, it’s Hunter Biden, it’s not Joe Biden. Whatever the scope of Joe Biden’s corruption is…it is infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in.”

    “It’s like a firefly to the sun,” he added.

    Americans are not going to go along with rogue elements rigging our elections.
     
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    Fake News. The Source is Sam Harris

    Sam Harris Approves of Media Misinforming Voters to Stop Trump.

    HARRIS: [Trump’s corruption] doesn’t answer the people who say it’s completely unfair to not have looked at the laptop in a timely way and to have shut down the New York Post’s Twitter account: ‘That’s a left-wing conspiracy to deny [Trump] his [second term].’ Absolutely it was! Absolutely! But I think it was warranted.

    INTERVIEWER: You’re saying you’re content with a left-wing conspiracy to prevent somebody from being democratically reelected president.

    'Harris doesn’t say, No, that’s not okay. Instead, he argues that it was a conspiracy out in the open, so not really a conspiracy.' See how TDS rots the brain? This clown thinks that a conspiracy must be concealed in order to be a conspiracy. Writers are expected to be more intelligent than this.

    "Sam Harris is one of those mercenary leftists who likes to stroke those on the right desperate for anyone on the left to agree with them about anything. So, yeah, he’ll say a few things we agree with. But at heart, he’s a fascist leftist. Just another scumbag willing to not only deceive you, but openly brag about his willingness to deceive you — laugh right in your face — to show off for his left-wing pals."

    "And Harris’s willingness to deceive you and laugh about deceiving you is not his only sin. He also lies about Trump’s “corruption” being a fact when he has been convicted of nothing, despite six years and billions of dollars aligned against him in the media, local and federal law enforcement, and all the impeachments and January 6 kangaroo courts."

    That final point is nothing short of amazing. Few in DC could go through the onslaught that been direct at Trump, and yet, after years and $Billions spent in search of anything they could fashion into felony charges, who expected them to still be at zero?

    "Yesterday, Harris attempted to walk back what everyone heard with their lying ears": Sam Harris clarifies that clip where he says he wouldn’t have cared if Hunter Biden had children’s bodies in his basement.

    These people are becoming pathetic desperate puddles of needy because they know they are losing.

    Just 81 days and we begin the Restoration of The Rule Of Law in America!
     
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    There is a podcast clip circulating that seems to be confusing many people about my views on Trump (which is understandable because I wasn’t speaking very clearly). So, for what it’s worth, here is what I was trying to say: 1/6


    I was essentially arguing for a principle of self-defense (where there’s a continuum of proportionate force that is appropriate and necessary to use). I’ve always viewed Trump as a very dangerous person to elect as president of a fake university, 2/6


    let alone the US, and when he became a sitting president who would not commit to a peaceful transfer of power, I viewed him as more dangerous still. (However, I’ve never been under any illusion that he is Orange Hitler.) 3/6


    On the podcast, I was speaking narrowly about the wisdom and propriety of ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story until after the election. I’ve always thought that this was a very hard call, ethically and journalistically. 4/6


    But given what happened with the Anthony Weiner laptop in the previous election, I think it was probably the right call. 5/6


    Nothing I said on that podcast was meant to suggest that the Democrats would have been right to commit election fraud or take other illegal measures to deny Trump the presidency (nor do I think they did that). 6/6

    https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1560339115865808896
     
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    Since when did a political campaign become a conspiracy? And why are you still listening to a right wing conspiracy site like Brightfart?

    Yes the main stream media hated/hates Trumps guts with a side order of sauce but that is not because of who he is and more because of what he is - an unethical immoral backstabbing narcissistic idiot who should never have been given access to an ice cream truck let alone government of one of the most powerful countries on the planet
     
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    The Intelligence Community uniting behind the lie that Hunter's Laptop wasn't Hunter's at all, but Russian disinformation, in order to rig the 2020 election isn't just a "political campaign". Neither is raiding the president's main opponent for the 2024 election in a frantic attempt to rig the 2024 election. You guys might be fine with that where you are from, but, Americans aren't fond of fixers.

    THE BUREAU USED TO CARE A LOT ABOUT ITS REPUTATION, ESPECIALLY WITH MIDDLE AMERICA. NOW IT DOESN’T CARE ANYMORE, IT SEEMS: THE FBI’S REPUTATION HAS CRATERED. “It seems shocking to say that the FBI is run by ‘politicized thugs’ who have turned the bureau into ‘Joe Biden’s personal Gestapo,’ but that is the way a little over half of all Americans now see the FBI. Nice going, James Comey and Christopher Wray!”

    They deserve the disgust that it being directed at them. This is the same FBI that was informed that the US Olympic Team girls were being systematically sexually abused, and then did nothing, allowing the sexual abuse to continue, for years more.

    But, Melania's sock drawer? That they toss for "nuclear secrets".
     
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    What would everyone's reaction be if it was someone on the Left who was controversial such as Bernie Sanders and whether they could serve as peresident:
     
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    actually, bb, that is precisely why the media LOVE trump and have promoted him at every opportunity. trump's most loyal fans are 'wrasslin' fans and they love drama and simple narratives where blue blooded american heros (like trump! lolol ) fight against evil foreigners and effete cheating not quite real americans.
     
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    With evidence like this, can his guilt be reasonably questioned?

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    Ask Sam Harris. He is the one who claimed the suppression of Hunter's laptop was a leftawing conspiracy. He also claimed the conspiracy was a GOOD THING. Here is the source. You can watch the entire interview yourself.



    1. Do you agree with Sam Harris in this interview that the suppression of the laptop was a conspiracy?
    2. Do you agree with Sam Harris that left wing conspiracies to suppress free democratic elections is a good thing?
     
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    I'm not sure I would have gone down that rabbit hole:
     
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    This is where we’re at now? Taking the opinions of individuals as irrefutable facts? Both sides are doing this now and it’s putrid behavior.
     
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    At least he's honest about it. Its rather refreshing compared to all the typical disingenuousness and gaslighting that most folks don't even try to hide anymore.
     
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    Can he dig himself out from under this:
     
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    Public intellectual beclowns himself. Or at least that's how I would have written the headline.
     

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