When will Trump be indicted?

Don't follow the news well?

MUELLER: 'If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so'

The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...orth-america-e0d125d737be4a21a81bec3d9f1dffd8

 

possible obstruction say it all... $48 million does not get a "possible" anything... Mueller either passes on evidence to convict or the case is closed due to insufficient evidence... there is no maybe, coulda, shoulda...

"""MUELLER: 'If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so"""'... It was never Mueller's job to be judge and jury...

Let me add that Mueller statement was so misleading as he should have correctly said "'If we had had confidence that the president clearly did commit a crime, we would have said so"" that was his job and he misrepresented his authority.

 

wrong

Muellers job was to turn the results of the investigation over to the DOJ..it was not his job to recommend criminal charges

in his investigation he clearly said...if they had confidence trump did not commit a crime he would have put it in his report

it is the job of the DOJ to say trump did commit a crime...and Bill Barr said trump did not commit a crime

and Barr had a press conference 3 days before releasing the report

why did he do this??

my guess was to give the GOP a little time to spin trump's actions

 

Thank you.

That's all I needed to know.

 

trump is not and was not the president after january 20th 2021

since that day trump cannot declassify so much as a birthday card from the white house

 

but he could on January 19, 2021

The memorandum Trump wrote is filed at the federal registry... but being that you have missed it... I will be happy to post it yet once again...

Trump declassified the documents...

White House memo from Meadows...

His memorandum..
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...to-the-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...lated-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation/
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/DCPD-202100044/pdf/DCPD-202100044.pdf

 

try again

keep spinning and making strawman defenses ,,it is kinda fun to read

crossfire hurricane is not mentioned even one time in the reports of the documents found in mar a lago

crossfire hurricane was the first year trump was in office...nobody cares about crossfire hurricane anymore .it is old news

what they are worried about is the items labeled classified found in trumps closet..such as other countries nuclear capabilities

if trump was innocent why did he need a lawyer?? oops lawyers wont work for trump ...even lawyers know he is guilty

a week or 2 ago it was being reported that trumps lawyers need lawyers,,

that is some funny stuff right there, I don't care who you are

 

Aug. 8th raid

You can or can not prove the documents were or were not crossfire documents... I can or can not prove the documents were or were not crossfire documents...
nobody can or can not prove the documents were or were not crossfire documents..

What I can prove is Trump declassified the documents in black and white and they sit in the federal register today...

feel free to show me proof the documents seized on Aug. 8 at Mar-a-lago were or were not crossfire documents...

Here... once again.. you can look at them...they are in black and white ...

Trump declassified the documents...

White House memo from Meadows...

His memorandum..
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...to-the-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...lated-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation/
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/DCPD-202100044/pdf/DCPD-202100044.pdf

 

psst...here is some news for you

the crossfire hurricane documents have been released and available for the general public

classified documents are not for public use ..they are classified for a reason,,

I agree the crossfire hurricane documents had been declassified by trump..this is why they are public

the reports released have not mentioned crossfire hurricane even one time ll



below is from fox news

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fbi-raid-doj-releases-more-details-documents-taken-mar-a-lago

 

Lets see what those investigators say

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November. In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities. That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.”


First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.





https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia

It provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government disrupted an American election to help Mr. Trump become president, Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.

...But the report showed extensive evidence of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and people tied to the Kremlin — including a longstanding associate of the onetime Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, whom the report identified as a “Russian intelligence officer.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

no paywall link
https://archive.ph/wy4RF

Beginning in 2017, the President of the United States took a variety of actions towards the ongoing FBI investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and related matters that raised questions about whether he had obstructed justice. The Order appointing the Special Counsel gave this Office jurisdiction to investigate matters that arose directly from the FBI’s Russia investigation, including whether the President had obstructed justice in connection with Russia-related investigations. The Special Counsel’s jurisdiction also covered potentially obstructive acts related to the Special Counsel’s investigation itself. This Volume of our report summarizes our obstruction-of-justice investigation of the President.

...Second, while the OLC opinion concludes that a sitting President may not be prosecuted, it recognizes that a criminal investigation during the President’s term is permissible.3 The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office


...Fourth, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President
clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the
applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

....In our view, the application of the obstruction statutes would not impermissibly burden the President’s performance of his Article II function to supervise prosecutorial conduct or to remove inferior law-enforcement officers. And the protection of the criminal justice system from corrupt acts by any person—including the President—accords with the fundamental principle of our government that “[n]o [person] in this country is so high that he is above the law.”
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

ONLY 37 INDICTMENTS FROM THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION RIGHT?

 

Dishonest, ALL I need to know

Hint COURTS SAID THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS

 

Man don't you dare compare the worthless corrupt POLITICAL "leaders" you worship to those who volunteer for our military.

My brother was already under contract and completely dedicated to fight for our country because in his mind and going after those responsible for 9/11 when his orders came in for him to be shipped to Iraq.

He's dead now and what the F**k did sending him over there accomplish??

Once more for those who think POLITICIANS are going to take care of you and your family.

I HATE ALL POLITICIANS

They are only on ONE side, the side that makes them more powerful and rich and they DO NOT CARE about the hardworking citizens that pay their inflated salaries.

An example: suddenly the corpse (biden) has miraculously lowered gas prices a tiny bit and his poll numbers went up a little.

Well DUH there's an election coming up and the corrupt politicians need some kind of victory.

And there are those who who fall for this unbelievably easy to recognize garbage and it blows my mind that they don't get it.

 

Yeah I do, you are ok with defending a man who made his first money by turning the Jewish people into the Nazis.

How can you you defend someone so horrible??

 

His inheritance...

President Trump's inheritance has NEVER been made public, it's all speculation by all the worthless corrupt career politians he ran against and this who want to "take him down".

I like how you trash a hardworking businessman and defend a POS like soros who sold information for his own profit on where the Jewish people were hiding during the Nazis takeover in Germany.

Seems your ok with "big brother" watching your fellow citizens and policing them however they choose.

 

I will NEVER donate money to a politician, President Trump or anyone else.

So your telling me that the worthless corrupt politicians you adore do not live in a world very different from yours and mine?

Really??

 

How cute.... Let's play spy games

""had received indications from the Russian government,,"" The "secret Russian spy " who fed Papadopoulos the information was a western intelligence agent Joseph Misfud...
Joseph Mifsud "poses " at Link campus, with Claire Smith (MI6)!
LINK campus Rome —where Misfud taught alongside Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee & member of the UK Security Vetting panel?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170222111838/https://www.lcilp.org/staff/
London Centre of International Law Practice

 

Your contempt for elective democracy and the cynical, fake pretense by some politicians that Iraq was responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attack aside, dedicated public servants, including career military personnel, are generally deemed to be far greater national assets than are casino-operating multiple bankrupts under investigation for tax avoidance and other violations of the law.

Surely, you must realize that.

 

What you won't find in the Mueller report...
Here is your foreign countries trying to affect our 2016 election.... it was not the Russians...

More spy games.... yee haa... it truly a secret spy operation using foreign countries to go around the laws that the US can't spy on its citizens.... it just uses foreign assets
but wait..."" there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government.""
The countries include: Australia, Estonia, France, Germany, Latvia (technically), Netherlands, Poland, Ukraine, and United Kingdom...

"""a representative of that foreign government"""
Australian High Commissioner Alexander Downer. The two had previously met through an Israeli embassy official, and the meeting was arranged at Downer’s request.
Who signed a deal to provide $25 million to the Clinton Foundation... had his fingers in the Uranium 1 deal...



MARIA BARTIROMO: “You’ve now seen the electronic communication, yes?”
REPRESENTATIVE DEVIN NUNES: “That’s correct. So it took us a long time to actually get this, what’s called the electronic communication, as we know it now for your viewers, what it is it’s the original intelligence, original reasons that the counterintelligence was started.

Now this is really important to us because the counterintelligence investigation uses the tools of our intelligence services that are not supposed to be used on American citizens. And we’ve long wanted to know: what intelligence did you have that actually led to this investigation? So what we’ve found now, after the investigators have reviewed it, is that in fact there was no intelligence.

So we have a traditional partnership with what’s called the Five Eyes Agreement. Five Eyes Agreement involves our friends in Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, and of course, us. So long time processes and procedures in place where we move intelligence across.

We are not supposed to spy on each others’ citizens. And it’s worked well. And it continues to work well. And we know it’s working well because there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government.

And that’s why we had to see that original communication. So now we’re trying to figure out, as you know, we are investigating the State Department, we think there’s some major irregularities in the State Department, and we’re trying to figure out how this information about Mr. Papadopoulos of all people who was supposedly meeting with some folks in London, how that made it over across into the FBI’s hands.”

So what we’ve found now, after the investigators have reviewed it, is that in fact there was no intelligence. There was no "official" intelligence used to start the investigation...

Let Devin Nunes speak for himself

 

He didn’t have to. He declassified them as president. And unless you can show someone reclassified them then they were still declassified when he’s not president.

 

trump certainly declassified the documents related to crossfire hurricane..

he signed a document specifically stating crossfire hurricane had been declassified

there are copies of 2 documents signed by trump on january 19th 2021 declassifying crossfire hurricane documents
the poster named the big lie posted the information earlier in this thread

BUT..

the other documents he took that he had not declassified is only one issue

the other issue is were the documents his for the taking

since trump believed that anything he had access to during his term belonged to him
why did he not take Air Force One??

the documents labeled declassified are not the issue

the documents he had were labeled classified that trump had in Mar a lago are the issue

 

According to whom? The exact same organization who was PROVEN to have illegally and unconstitutionally engaged in surveillance and wiretapping of the EXACT same individual that they’re targeting now.

If theyre not willing to attempt to prove their claims in court then ON WHAT GROUNDS should they be believed?

 

Why would I follow liars?

WTF kind of gibberish is that? If he clearly committed a crime, then none of these crooked shenanigans (like raiding his home on an over generalized warrant, in violation of the 4th amendment) would be necessary.

 

before searching mar a lago the DOJ were required to go to court to get a search warrant..which they did

the DOJ does not take action until it is certain there is a slam dunk case..

the DOJ were certain trump stole these documents and had possession before going to court to get them returned

when the DOJ presses charges against trump...you can be certain he is guilty

and BTW..just because an organization has gotten it wrong before does not mean it will get it wrong again

 

You are suggesting justice.gov is an unreliable source? Oh sure, it's not the paramount of truth that is Breitbart but still...

 

There's just so many to investigate. It's best to pick the easy fruit and let history deal with the rest.