New Power to the President, Declassify in Mind?

Precisely why Trump will NOT be indicted by the DOJ. They can't prove that there is a declassification process the president must follow.

 

The above goes without saying but there'd have to be an indictment first.

Where's the beef?

 

Navy vs. Egan…..1988

Executive Order 13282….issued March 2003, and said Order clearly states a declassification process.

However, since 2003, was the above-mentioned EO revoked/canceled, and/or simplified by Trump?

Answer; Most likely not

 

I agree.

Out to Lunch?

 

I agree.

 

You are the one that has to show the "several" cities that cannot explain their numbers. It is not up to me to "prove" your point. I showed you an article that dismissed your claim and now you are saying that it doesn't apply to other cities. What cities and what are the actual claims?

Several cities is to "general" to address.

 

The above does not negate the supreme court decision, Navy vs. Egan. The line of authority for declassification at anytime for any document, remains with the executive, the POTUS.

"The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."

PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

 

Must have been a big lunch because looks like nap time for some.

 

Detroit, Pittsburg, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Las Vegas.Minneapolis, You showed an article that addressed the claim of millions. The change of an election didn't require millions, it required thousands. Your article doesn't account for that. Why would you use such sloppy citations?

 

Big lunch “Comfort Food” does tend to lead to nap time

 

For anyone’s info, the above mentioned Executive Order was superseded by EO 13526, year 2009

“The President Executive Order 13526”

Part 3…..Declassification and Downgrading

 

However, YOU clearly stated; “There’s no process to declassify a document when in fact THERE WAS, AND MOST LIKELY, THERE IS STILL A PROCESS

Executive Order 13292 (2003), superseded by Executive Order 13526 (2009)

Part 3, Declassification and Downgrading

 

Executive Order 13282
Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay ??????????????

 

No we aren't.

 

Correction;

In a previous post, I clearly stated;

Executive Order 13292——Further Amendment to Executive Order 12958, as Amended, Classified National Security Information, March 25, 2003

EO 13282….a typo error

And then,

Superseded by Executive Order 13526 (2009)

And both Executive Orders clearly state a declassification/downgrading process…..Read Part 3

HOWEVER, the question is; When Trump was POTUS, was there still a process to declassify a document as stated in EO 13292, and then, superseded by EO 13526?

My best answer; Most likely

 

Yes, it's on the official website.

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/form/af77/af77.pdf

 

Bottom line; There was, and most likely, there is still a process to declassify a document regardless if a sitting President has the authority to ignore said process.

EO 13292…..(issued 2003)

EO 13526……(issued 2009)

PART 3……Declassification and Downgrading

 

I asked you for links to the articles that show that in the cities you show that this in effect happened. You did not supply it. I could as easily claim that people from Norway, Sweden and Australia voted for Trump illegally. It wouldn't make it true if I did not supply proof of it.

In all the history of our elections where we have had a way to check on the votes, it has been found that the number of fraudulent votes was so infinitesimal that no difference could have happened.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites.../Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf

It never has been found that more than a few hundred votes were fraudulent and in most cases that were found to be fraudulent it was due to individuals and not to any conspiracy.

Until you show actual proof (not words), you story is not believable.

 

In addition to the above, one can’t conclude that there is no process to declassify a document when most likely, there still is a process whether a sitting President is obliged to follow or not.

 

Good.
But the poster I responded to with my questions has decided it's too difficult to answer.

I guess justifying bad behavior of an elected official is ok to some people.

 

Why don't you post the actual data you are bringing up so it can be discussed?
Then people won't have to guess what you're posting about.

 

No one is fine with it.
But you simply won't provide any evidence. Probably because you have no evidence of your extra vote claim.
That is becoming very obvious at this point.

Why not simply provide the data to that you're claiming. Show the evidence.

 

never okay but it must be fair that's why I am unenrolled

 

Part 3 - Declassification and Downgrading
Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification. (a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:

(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator’s current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority; or (4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official of the originating agency.
(c) The Director of National Intelligence (or, if delegated by the Director of National Intelligence, the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence) may, with respect to the Intelligence Community, after consultation with the head of the originating Intelligence Community element or department, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence relating to intelligence sources, methods, or activities.
(d) It is presumed that information that continues to meet the classification requirements under this order requires continued protection. In some exceptional cases, however, the need to protect such information may be outweighed by the public interest in disclosure of the information, and in these cases the information should be declassified. When such questions arise, they shall be referred to the agency head or the senior agency official. That official will determine, as an exercise of discretion, whether the public interest in disclosure outweighs the damage to the national security that might reasonably be expected from disclosure. This provision does not:

(1) amplify or modify the substantive criteria or procedures for classification; or
(2) create any substantive or procedural rights subject to judicial review.
(e) If the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office determines that information is classified in violation of this order, the Director may require the information to be declassified by the agency that originated the classification. Any such decision by the Director may be appealed to the President through the National Security Advisor. The information shall remain classified pending a prompt decision on the appeal.
(f) The provisions of this section shall also apply to agencies that, under the terms of this order, do not have original classification authority, but had such authority under predecessor orders.
(g) No information may be excluded from declassification under section
3.3 of this order based solely on the type of document or record in which it is found. Rather, the classified information must be considered on the basis of its content.
(h) Classified nonrecord materials, including artifacts, shall be declassified as soon as they no longer meet the standards for classification under this order.
(i) When making decisions under sections 3.3, 3.4, and 3.5 of this order, agencies shall consider the final decisions of the Panel.
The President Executive Order 13526 | National Archives

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Is this EO still in effect?

 

Quote; Trump will not be indicted

I disagree

IMO, Trump will be indicted, however, will he be convicted?