It’s been almost a year since I’ve worn a mask, how about you?

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Why is it that the anti science people have no idea how immunology and virology work?

    Ditto. (see above)

    Jabby jabbed people still get COVID anyway, no matter how many times they've been jabbed. Masks do not work for viruses.
     
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    MuchAdo Well-Known Member

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    Since you don't follow any actual science, here some new research results for you --

    Published in JAMA, a study randomizing outpatients with COVID-19 from 93 sites around the United States to ivermectin or placebo.

    A total of 1591 individuals — median age 47, 60% female — with confirmed symptomatic COVID-19 were randomized from June 2021 to February 2022. About half had been vaccinated.

    The primary outcome was straightforward: time to clinical recovery. Did ivermectin make people get better, faster?

    It did not. The time to recovery, defined as having three symptom-free days, was 12 days in the ivermectin group and 13 days in the placebo group — that's within the margin of error.
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2797483

    Most randomized trials of ivermectin showed no effect --- Ivermectin for the Treatment of Coronavirus Disease 2019: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic

    Conclusions: Compared with the standard of care or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, LOS, or viral clearance in RCTs in patients with mostly mild COVID-19. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or SAEs and is not a viable option to treat patients with COVID-19. 'https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/74/6/1022/6310839?login=false

    Some early overseas studies were shown to be fraudulent as well -- https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/ivermectin-studies-overseas-misinformation-americans

    You can yell with bold font large font and scream about lies but I am sorry, when it comes down to actual research, the comments by two well known uberquacks that have made tons of money from fraudulently promoting ivermectin and other such useless treatments belong in la poubelle (the garbage). Science doesn't lie, Mercola and is cronies do.
     
  3. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    You were just provided with links to "the experts"... Now, all of a sudden, "the experts" are wrong?? ;) ;)
     
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    A COVID shot isn't a vaccine.
     
  5. MuchAdo

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    Well whatever it is, it has vastly decreased cases of severe covid and deaths due to covid.
     
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    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    You don’t know whether that’s true or not.
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    I rest my case.
     
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    An experimental injection at best, and that's not a good thing...

    No it hasn't. Most everyone who has received these injections, no matter how many injections they've received, are still being told that they have been infected with COVID anyway, so it hasn't done anything with regard to preventing illness.

    There is no such thing. What is "severe COVID" as opposed to "COVID", btw?

    There are none. I've explained the death certificate scam on this forum ad nauseum.
     
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    He's just making **** up, as there is no such thing as "severe COVID" (there's only COVID, supposedly) and nobody has died from COVID, as there's no causal chain of events from COVID infection to death.
     
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    No, he is correct about that. It is YOU who doesn't know what a vaccine is and how it works.
     
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    A COVID shot is not a vaccine. We have a vaccine for things like Polio and smallpox, but not one for a coronavirus.
     
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    ~ There is no legitimate evidence of this — only speculation. As more of the facts emerge it appears that the mRNA "vaccine " actually caused more harm than good ...
     
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    Is it that you don’t understand that not all vaccines work the same way or that viruses are not all the same?
     
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    No. It is that you and Nwolfe35 don't understand what a vaccine is nor how it works.
     
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    A COVID shot is not a vaccine.
     
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    Saying something doesn’t make it true, how about you explain in your own words why a vaccine to protect against SARS-CoV-2 is not a vaccine. Try to base your answer on actual science. Go on then.
     
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    It’s true. A COVID shot is not a true vaccine. You don’t need to be vaccinated every year for the same malady.
     
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    We have a new version more often than we inflict daylight savings time on people. Of course the old vaccine won't work on the new version of the virus. I have had 3 and I don't know if it has done any good or any harm. I'm still here and mobile.
     
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    Do all viruses mutate rapidly? Are all viruses the same — DNA vs RNA?
    Are all vaccines meant to work the same way? Do all diseases that have vaccines not require boosters? Do some vaccines provide sterilizing immunity while others don’t? If you are going to make claims then consider what you are talking about.
     
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    Don’t blame me because you don’t know the difference between a true vaccine and a simple inoculation.
     
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    Only in your mind and the reams of MSM propaganda.
     
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    No blame here. Colour me stupid and explain the difference to me because obviously my medical education related to different types of viruses and vaccines was all wrong. Help me understand unless you don’t know either. Your lack of explanation speaks volumes.
     
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    ~ At this point the mRNA "experiment " is a modest therapeutic at best. At worst it could be a time bomb in the vascular and immune system.
    Novavax is still being used and watched with unknown outcome, but much fewer mysterious side-effects.
     
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    You did that more effectively than I ever could.
     
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    No need for that. Degenerating into personal attacks just tells me you know little to nothing about viruses or vaccines.
     

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