Can the Paleolithic Diet cure diabetes?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A rather surprising statement about this is made around the 1:15:00 mark in this video by Dr. Lustig.



    This is certainly encouraging to know that diabetes sufferers do have this option.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2787021/
     
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    Keto is about the same: Veggies, Protein and Water.

    REDUCE big time sugars and carbs...

    I quit bring that Dead Bread into my house probably 12 yrs ago.....
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!!!

    Thank you for this interesting comment Joyce Martino.

    I have been kind of lazy... but I do believe that every word that Stanley Jacob M. D. wrote about methyl suphonyl methane is true!


    www.msm-info.com/
     
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    The "Paleolithic Diet" has high amounts of protein and vegetables, but very low carbohydrates, since everything is uncooked.
     
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    The connection between sugar consumption and diabetes was suspected by 1845:

    In 1845, Claude Bernard wrote in his red notebook, “The digestion of carbohydrates takes place in two steps; first: transformation into glucose, second: glucose is burned in the lung. If this doesn’t happen, diabetes occurs.” Claude Bernard asked, “Is this true?”

    The physician William Harvey attended lectures in Paris on diabetes management given by Claude Bernard.

    Back in England William Banting visited William Harvey and followed his advice.

    In 1863, Banting wrote a booklet called Letter on Corpulence, Addressed to the Public[6] which contained the particular plan for the diet he followed. It was written as an open letter in the form of a personal testimonial. Banting accounted all of his unsuccessful fasts, diets, spa and exercise regimens in his past. His previously unsuccessful attempts had been on the advice of various medical experts. He then described the dietary change which finally had worked for him, following the advice of another medical expert. "My kind and valued medical adviser is not a doctor for obesity, but stands on the pinnacle of fame in the treatment of another malady, which, as he well knows, is frequently induced by [corpulence]." (p24) His own diet was four meals per day, consisting of meat, greens, fruits, and dry wine. The emphasis was on avoiding sugar, saccharine matter, starch, beer, milk and butter.


    (the salt in butter stimulates production of insulin)

    Banting was correct.
     
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    Excess sugar in the blood is normally transported by insulin into the cells and there sequestered
    as fat, so avoiding high levels of sugar in the blood will prevent type 2 diabetes and at the same
    time reduce obesity.

    Our forefathers knew all this yet in 1980 it went out in the trash:

    obesity-trends-giant.jpg
     
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    Fruit juice is just wonderful tasting sugar water and will promote tooth decay, diabetes and obesity.

    The fiber in fruit is what makes the difference. It greatly slows absorption of the fructose.
     
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    The order you eat food matters. You should start the day off eating vegetables first. It helps stabilize your blood sugar for the rest of the day and reduce cravings.
     
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    With reference to the thread title, the origin of the Banting diet was the research
    of Claude Bernard into diabetes, and yes in 1845 they had already worked out
    that removing sugar from the diet helped control diabetes.

    I've read the S.A.D. (Standard American Diet) is 42% sugar measured by calories,
    and is therefore effectively a membership of death row.
     
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    Banting's own experience revealed that removing sugar, starch and beer also
    reduced corpulence (obesity) because the body moves sugar from the blood stream
    into cells and stores it there as fat to protect against excessive sugar in the
    bloodstream and, more significantly for most of our existence, to store fat for the
    winter or any time of famine.

    The sugar in the bloodstream itself causes damage, and increases insulin resistance
    which is the path to (type 2) diabetes but additionally the fat advances diabetes by
    absorbing insulin which appears never to saturate the fat but the fat keeps absorbing
    insulin and it degrades during storage in the fat, so is lost forever.

    This requires addition of insulin to over come both the insulin resistance and the losses
    in the fat.
     
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    Improve diet gradually

    Any change in diet must be accomplished over a period of time, a
    month or two, for several reasons.

    Increasing fat consumption requires the body to make more bile
    to digest it. Fiber is also more difficult to digest than sugar and
    simple carbs.

    Another factor is the microbe population of the digestive tract -
    microbes able to digest the new diet need time to multiply.
     
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    BRAT - a recovery diet
    Starting a healthy diet is a gradual process and after a bout of
    sickness it will be necessary to restart the digestive system with
    many sips of water or rehydration fluid, and gradual introduction
    progressing slowly from top to bottom of what I call a 'recovery diet'.

    Ice chips to slow the intake of water
    Water, broth, decaf teas, clear fruit juice
    Electrolyte beverages
    Peppermint tea
    Bananas rice applesauce toast
    Crackers pretzels

    plain potato
    eggs, low-fat poultry & meat
    fruit
    (courtesy of health line)

    Two reasons for a recovery diet are
    1. A healthy diet places heavy demands on the digestive
    system as both fat and fiber are a lot of work to digest
    and require restocking digestive substances.

    2. A person recovering after a bout of D & V is likely to
    be very hungry and eat too much all at once, and then
    throw it all up again. Then back to square one.
    So eat a little and often.

    If you are a person who can successfully do intermittent
    fasting and ketogenic diet, consider taking a few weeks
    to get all the way back into it.
     
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    In addition to the damage sugar and simple carbs do,
    there's the problem of empty calories.

    A person will hunger/have cravings, until receiving enough
    of each required nutrient.

    'His (Banting's medical advisor's) own diet was four meals
    per day, consisting of meat, greens, fruits, and dry wine.'

    Note therefore the greens and the fruits. Dried fruit is often
    a good substitute, but don't over eat dried or other fruit
    as it may ferment in the gut and cause pain.

    And given the amount of damage today's typical US diet does,
    I'd avoid the alcohol as well.

    Julia Ross has written books on what to eat and why.
     
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    Why is our present day diet so bad when they had it right all
    those years ago?

    There has been some research published on this question and
    bits I recall are that there was a question of why heart attacks
    were becoming common, and the obvious culprit was sugar
    but that would have harmed the soft drinks industry and sugar
    industry, so some bribes were paid and the blame was put on
    animal fats and cholesterol.

    And that blame has been propagated down the line in medical
    advice and official guidelines, the food pyramid, and cookbooks.
     
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    Well it cuts out all the refined sugars and all of the fake sugars that are not really chemically a problem for people.

    Put another thing it does is it cuts out almost all convenience foods and if you're just going to cook stuff at home just cook stuff at home you don't have to worry about paleo
     

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