For the most part, city dwellers are incapable of understanding life’s basic rules

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  1. Joe knows

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    In the modern age of woke BS where global warming is more important than food city raised lawmakers make laws that hinder food supplies. So many of these city dwellers run around in litter filled cities, driving without carpooling, and making laws against the farmers that supply the food they eat without even knowing they’re doing it. They want to complain about emissions but go to a city and count how many people are on the freeway as a single person per car. Yet they’ll pass laws that don’t effect them…. Or so they think. Then they complain when they see the adverse side effects of their laws. In this case it’s farming.

    In Europe they passed emission laws that are hindering farmers and ranchers. All while having the expectation of full grocery shelves. For a growing population you must have condensed energy in the equipment and land both. Fertilizers made by fossil fuels and equipment that needs to run on it needs to operate freely without restrictions for full shelves. You hinder those capabilities and the grocery stores will be hindered too, along with your wallet. This is what happens when life’s basics are ignored for things they could improve on like forced carpools.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62335287.amp
     
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    And country folk will never understand the problems created by living around other humans.

    Maybe we should move half the people from cities out to the country.
     
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    Something that is consistently true along those lines is that people born and raised in the country, on the farms and ranches- can move to the cities and do pretty well.
    However, people born and raised in the city find adapting to the country world almost impossible.

    The habits and values each take with them as well as the skill-sets make the difference.
     
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    I disagree with your premise, and that is coming from someone who was born and raised in an area so rural that i had to go 100 miles to find a movie theater.

    Most of the people who live in the country, aren't farming or raising their own food. Maybe in Wyoming or Montana, but rural life in most of the country isn't life on a ranch.
     
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    Complete bullcrap. I grew up in a city. As an adult I moved to a small rural town, as in so small we have one traffic light, and there was nothing impossible to adapt to. A number of people from the town I grew up in also happened to move to the town I'm in and some surrounding rural towns with no issues "adapting".
    What is it you think is almost impossible to adapt to?
     
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    Perhaps you are mixing small town and country? Not sure why because your focus was on the production of food supply for the nation, and that specifically is farm or ranch related.

    I was born in a larger city, moved in the middle of childhood to a rural home 7 miles from a small town, which had a main street about 2 blocks long.. Instead of having 500 in my high school class, I graduated as one of 12. All but one of my classmates came from farm/ranch backgrounds. I married a country girl, and frankly think that is a wise choice for anyone. Better, more reliable base values and character. What I found was that people who lacked the conveniences of city, the nearby services and availability of things, learned to be much more self-reliant. That means individual strength and resourcefulness. It's also true that the small town resident's who aren't farmers or ranchers make their living supporting the needs of farm and ranch industries. Grain elevators, equipment services, Co-ops, etc- providing what those in the industries need to run them. I found them generally more honest people as well. You can be a fraud in a big city and never run out of suckers; always places to hide. In the country, people still talk to their neighbors- and that kind of person's character is soon known to all. That's my experience in it.

    I live in a large city today- because the nature of my business requires it. But my fondest memories, the places I love most... are down a country road.
     
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    It was 12 miles to the closest gas station where i grew up, it was most definitely rural. There were about 20 people who lived within 5 miles of me, and they were all related to me.

    The people aren't any better or worse than the people living in cities, it's just that when you cramp more people closer together, it creates more conflict and competition, which brings out the worst in people.

    It's a mistake to say that the people who live in cities are different from people who live in the country. The people are the same. They are adapted to different environments.
     
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    Physically we are all alike. But how we think, the values we adopt have to do with the conditions we grow up in and how we live vary. This is what makes the difference in people- including those who grow up in the city but in families with contrasting examples. That does result in being better or worse, it's just a lot more difficult for a misfit to merge into a small social group than a large one. You could say- tht is adapting to their environment, or seeking an environment best suited for them.

    There are all kinds of people in society, but they do tend to seek others like themselves, people with similar values. The worst of us need people to prey on, and that unfortunately is hard to hide in small communities. There are trade-offs on both sides; what you give up, what you gain.
     
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    Yes, people in the rural areas are much less likely to accept someone from the city moving in than if someone from the country moved to the city, where people would barely notice them.
     
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    I live here in Los Angeles. One would think that "liberal land" would be an example of planet-friendly behavior.

    Unfortunately, they commute in their single occupancy vehicles while the trains and buses are empty. They stop for some drive thru for some greenhouse gas producing animal products, and then the hardware store for pesticides/herbicides to contaminate our soil and oceans.

    At least they have a "Save the Planet" sticker on their car!
     
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    Holy hyperbole
     
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    As a person that has lived my whole life in the burbs of a metropolis, I use to think rural life was all centered around farming. Recently I have been watching some Youtube videos on the shrinking rural towns in the U.S. and realize most are not involved in farming. Some were created to support some form of industry but it is sad how these towns are slowly disappearing. The problem is this hasn't been happening for the last few years or decades. They have been shrinking for almost 1/2 a century. The videos show closed up shops. Boarded up abandoned homes. They show main streets that are empty of people. The videos are created by a small content creator so it does not go in depth or analyzes the issue. He just shows you watch he sees.

    I was thinking about creating a thread on this subject because it seems we have a lot of people here in rural communities. I would be interested to know if their communities are also shrinking. Here are some samples of the videos.



     
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    We need to do more for rural areas for sure.

    The area where i grew up still can't get high speed internet access.

    I think the remote work trend has created a great opportunity for rural areas if they can get the infrastructure.

    They are great places to live.
     
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    True. This is contrast in the values of people. As I said, you can hide in a city- not so easy in a rural town or community. The phone system when we moved to the country actually had an operator. When you wanted to talk to someone not on your party line, you rang the operator and gave her the person or number you wanted to talk to. Not uncommon for the operator to reply to be "She's not home right now, she's over at the Harvey farm visiting Mabel..... I'll ring them for you" Took a while to adapt to the changes. Kids in my class chewing tobacco, spitting juice in the air vent on the wall.... stuff like that. Culture shock for me. On the other hand, they were real people; what you see is what they are- no BS. I adapted.
     
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    My main question when I started watching these videos was why are these towns dying? The only explanation this content creator offers is young people move away to the cities to find jobs. I think if we cannot solve the problem of them bleeding population, is it worth the expenditure to build expensive infrastructure when these communities can disappear? I know Biden infrastructure bill offered billions to subsidize the building of hi speed internet access etc... Most people living in those rural communities would oppose that spending.
     
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    Internet access will be the first step.

    I think some of these towns could start to market themselves to attract teleworkers, and build up a tax base. Local small business would eventually come back.
     
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    I remember the time my mother caught my uncle having an affair because she picked up the phone and he was talking to a woman on the phone.

    Party lines were great.
     
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    Well that explains a lot.
     
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    The way they do this is by becoming super energy efficient and shutting down farms and oil production all while paying more money to get Food and oil from under developed nations who have little to no energy controls. That way, said country can brag about how energy efficient they are and win more votes.
     
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    Pol Pot did that. Millions died. Funny how forced relocation was the first thing you thought of...lol
     
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    It's all about control. But, you can bet the people making these laws won't see any grocery shortages.
     
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    Once we build out high speed broadband to every home in the nation, the reliance upon a local economy for work will diminish significantly.
     
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    Well lets hope you guys don't the same mistakes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl
     
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    I think that is exactly what we should do, let the country folk show us how it's done
     
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    work from home jobs being outsourced to India
     

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