'Absurd' To Call Oath Keepers Insurrectionists Or A National Security Threat, Former FBI Agent...

Take blm with them

 

Ha! we do agree sometimes

 

All these groups are in the same whacky boat. Some are just far more violent and have caused a lot more damage than others, but the Left doesn’t like acknowledging or covering it.

 

It was well reported by the journalistic media that the Oath Keepers provided significant support to the Capitol Police in handling the mob.

 

BLM is a classic example of a far left group who liertally isn't doing anything but lying about a cause they can steal money from people and companies to enrich themselves. A lot of these comapanies were stupid to give them one penny. They should have known the people running it were thieves.

It's no different than the Clinton Foundation or Hunter Biden selling paintings. It's all shady and dishonest.

I don't really know much about the Oath Keepers other than their appearence at 1/6 and their constant battles with ANTIFA. ANTIFA seems to follow them around begging for fights.

"More than 300 individuals on a leaked membership list of the Oath Keepers described themselves as current or former employees of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Members were employed at DHS components such as the Border Patrol, Coast Guard, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Secret Service, according to a review by the Project On Government Oversight (POGO)."

It sounds like a lot of them come from organizations designed to protect the US, not tear it to shreds, like ANTIFA. Fringe outfits should all be dealt in the same way and justice should be equal and mitigated properly, not one sided.

 

In case you haven't read about Brunson v. Adams, try this Spookdblog

 

That proves how right Orwell was: In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.

If Gaundolo was dismissed by Wray and Garland, he should be proud.

I have 2 LE friends who have been members of OK for years. They are good men.

The events of 6 January showed concerned citizens exercising their First Amendment rights.

Yes Virginia, the 2020 election was rigged, and all those in Congress KNEW it was rigged.

 

FBI Gaundolo sure was "speaking the truth" when he was screwing Lori Mody who was a wired FBI informant,
It was 2005, Bush's FBI that found out about the two and they didn't report it to the Attorney General.

So much for your "universal deception speaking the truth" yada yada

 

I don't see Guandolo as a saint or hero or anything like that. Here and now I'm saying only that his assessment of the Oath Keepers seems accurate, and consistent with my extremely limited experience with Oath Keepers.

I watched an interview with Guandolo somewhere else on the internet, can't remember where. He was right about several things discussed, but when it came to 911 his story was just the same old same old official narrative.

 

Meh. The Oath Keepers are pro government if it's the right government. Just like ANTIFA is pro government if it's the right government...The Oath Keepers and ANTIFA are authoritarian. It's their way or no way.

 

Yes, they are pro government IF the government governs lawfully in accordance with the terms of the US Constitution. That is, they are Pro Constitution.

They favor our elected officials honoring their oath of office. I and many others have taken that oath. I see the spirit that animates the Oath Keepers as being a patriotic spirit.

Patriotism means supporting your country all the time, but its government only when it deserves it.

History and the Twitter files have shown that more often than not, governments do not deserve support.

 

The Oath Keepers are anarchists?

 

Oath Keeprs = Pro Trump, anti Schiff, anti anyone who does not follow The Constitution
ANTIFA = Pro anarchy, Pro destruction, Pro hatered

Both can be extreme but only one group hates this country.

BTW, that is not an endorsement for the Oath Keepers, just stating what they're positions are.

 

Dude is such a Muslim hater, that he assaulted the Sheriff who dared to disagree at a national sheriff convention.
He was fined 600,000 bucks over it.


https://waterskraus.com/anti-muslim-hate-group-leader-loses-assault-trial-dallas/


This is the best the far right wing has to offer claiming the Oath keeper aren't there to overthrow the government.
Nice.

 

Everybody is being treated according to the same law.
The Oath Keepers actively tried to overthrow the US government. And so lavish punishments are out for that unpatriotic coup attempt to install fascism.
Antifa did not do that, and so can't be punished that way. They are punished for the crap they did though. So that explains a difference you might have missed.

 

Support in the form of beating them? Spraying them with chemical sprays?

 

You can't support Trump's attempts to overthrow the election and also support the Constitution. That's impossible.

 

Pro hatered is the worst!

 

That is just fake news. It was a "stop the steal" rally (that turned into a riot) to protest what people thought was a rigged election against the sitting President. Now with the Twitter files being released and Meta being fined over $25 million in election tampering fines, we know this is pretty accurate.

"overthrow", what a bunch of nonsnese. If they were there to overthrow anything, that Capital would have been burned to the ground and Congress would have been dismantled.

 

I'm not talking about the riot when it comes to that. I'm talking about his attempts before then. Try reading the Eastman memo.

 

Using the court system is not "overthrow", it was perfectly legal what Trump was doing. Hyperbol is insane.

 

He did more than "using the court system." There are at least two ongoing criminal investigations into the fake elector plot. And the Eastman memo tactics were not about "using the court system." Trump continued his efforts even after losing in court. The only "hyperbol" here is in pretending that all he did was try to use the court system. It's like saying all John Wayne Gacy did was put on some grease paint and tie some balloon animals.

 

Just nonsnse and stay on topic please.

 

They did nothing of the sort. Capital Police were actually opening up the doors and letting people walk through the Capital. If it was an effort to overthrow and install a "fascist" regime, they could have easily have burned The Capital to the ground. Even if they did that, explain how that would have menat installing a fascist regime?

 

With Guandolo too.

"with my extremely limited experience with Oath Keepers."