Biden Proposes Key Medicare Cut Just One Week After Falsely Accusing Republicans Of The Same Thing

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    …Biden lied about Republicans stance on cutting Medicare all while knowing that he himself was going to propose a Medicare cut within the Medicare Advantage program.

    The Medicare Advantage program is one that many seniors are enrolled in and count on the federal government to come through on.

    While Republican’s clapped back at Biden for making such baseless claims that they wanted to cut funding to Medicare, Biden only continued to point fingers at them.Meanwhile a recent report is showing that Biden is the one actually making cuts, which is only infuriating conservatives.

    The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently revealed that the Biden Administration has proposed slashing an average 2.3 percent of payments made to Medicare Advantage. This would ultimately result in taking away a WHOPPING $4.7 billion away from a program that is estimated to serve over 30 million elderly Americans.

    Fox News reports that Biden’s decision could also “force insurance companies to suspend coverage for millions of Medicare Advantage beneficiaries and withdraw from the marketplace altogether, inevitably increasing premiums, out-of-pocket costs, and deductibles.”

    Not only is this yet another prime example of the wild spending and monetary arrangements of the Biden Administration but it also shows his complete and utter hypocrisy.…










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    One wonders what Biden is even thinking. Making an allegation against Republicans when he’s the one doing the cutting. Does he really think that the House will sit back and let him do it?
     
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    That he’s targeting my mothers Medicare angers me.
     
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    So you do support some forms of socialism.
     
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    “The Biden administration’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) announced Jan. 30 it plans to conduct audits and recoup funds from overpayments to insurance programs dating back to 2011, which will mean clawing back $4.7 billion from the program, according to Axios.”
     
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    Possibly, depending on what one stretches in to their definition of the word.
     
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    In other words they are going to make certain that insurance companies won’t offer plans to Medicare patients because the government will target their viability. They aren’t going after overpayments made to doctors and hospitals in the other plan. The House will never allow cuts to Medicare Advantage because many of their constituents over 65 in the majority’s districts are on Medicare Advantage.
     
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    Well of course CMS isn't going after NON-Medicare plans...because they don't deal with NON-Medicare plans. That should have been obvious to you. Also, you DO realize private insurers do overpayment audits too, right? You DO know this, right???
     
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    Medicare should cover 100%, get rid of supplemental

    the insurance companies pushed for the 20% scam
     
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    figures, no one expects the right to be honest... sad!
     
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    At the very least Trending Politics News site and XXJefferson#51
     
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    it sounds like we taxpayers are paying for your mother's health care. why isn't your family paying for that?
     
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    The only type of socialism we need is protecting the homeland, property, and person. The rest is what causes most of the problems.
     
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    But isn’t a UHC “protecting the person”?
     
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    We could give a lot of things to everybody that might be considered, "protecting the person," like a brand new $60K SUV, but it would not make anymore sense than it does paying for everybody's health care.

    The only sane and sustainable solution to the health care crisis is in making each person responsible for their own health. The purpose of government is not in attempting to extend each person's life.
     
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    Nobody I know that is conservative or capitalist supports unfettered Laissez Faire capitalism.

    Some regulation and social programs are necessary, the question is how much.

    Framing your all or nothing retort is just avoiding the difficulties of actual rational conversation.
     
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    The Australian govt would disagree - quite strongly - as does basically ever country with a UHC. Bottom line - healthier workforce is a more productive workforce
     
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    Of course they would. Governments [that is, the people who benefit from government] want ALL the power and ALL the money.

    The only person who really cares about you is YOU. The U.S. is what it is because individuals made it that way. The U.S. had THE BEST health care system in the world UNTIL the government and corporations got involved and now it is only the most expensive. Amazing how that works!

    The government doesn't care about you because it can't. It works in the interests of those who pay for it. Only individuals are capable of compassion, innovation, and contentment.
     
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    Context :thumbsup:. Clearly the OP and the article's author lack that component of critical thought or they prefer to partisan gaslight.
     
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    I live in a country with a UHC and I assure you it is the exact opposite

    Pollies love spending money on things the can brand with their name - seeing all that Lovett tax income be soaked up by healthcare just grinds their teeth

    Yanks! Shakes head.
    Whoever convinced you that you do not have power over your government has done the biggest con of the century - as for the “best” healthcare system. That was decades ago - sorry. A health care system should not cause people to become bankrupt and it definitely should have built in mechanisms for prevention and treatment of chronic Heath

    Three of the prime indicators of general health and well being of a country are overall Mortality, maternal mortality and infant mortality

    The USA is no longer at the top in any of those metrics

    Again - who convinced you you are not powerful? Don’t you believe in giving your politicians a good arse kicking until THEY do what YOU want them to?
     
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    Biden is simply continuing his avid support of Obamacare which surreptitiously but specifically was set up to destroy Medicare Advantage. The destruction was to start in 2013 but when Obama learned that the Medicare Advantage users had to be informed of the draconian changes by law one month before the 2012 election he quickly and illegally scuttled the plan.
     
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    No it wouldn't.
     
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    Compared to what? Most NHC's do an OK job, no better. The government can only be so good. What is needed to excel in health care formulation/delivery is to have the care compassion-based and this can only be accomplished by individuals. All NHC's are unsustainable in their present form unless they decide to eliminate more and more technology...and most could care less about real health care [prevention].

    Who do you think has been footing the bill to keep your rear ends safe since WWII? And who do you think has been patrolling the entire globe in order to make it safe for your country to export its goods? And you people has been the beneficiary of all the technology the U.S. has invested in and brought to market in just about every field imaginable. THIS is why you have as much money as you do to put to your NHC system. So if I were you, I would thanking me for paying for you [something that people in the U.S. are getting pretty tired of, btw]. How about sending some of your income over here every paycheck?

    Again, 99% of the technology you use down under comes from here. The problem with this system is corruption [as is the problem with all systems]. The other problem is that it is not [similar to all Western HC] a heath care system, but instead, it is a sick care system.

    That's because of the incredible diversity of our population, but you might wish to consider the following...

    ...the U.S. is the wealthiest, has the best farmland, the most energy reserves, the best transportation system [especially rivers], the best university system, the best technology, the most successful corporations, the most stable form of government, the most powerful military, and essentially runs the world.

    Yes, we have a lot of issues due to political and economic corruption, but once that is rooted-out and the ship of state is righted, the U.S. is poised to enter another golden age and this time there will not be too many countries riding our coattails. You guys are going to be one of them along with Canada, Great Britain, Japan, Mexico, and perhaps a couple of countries in South America.

    BIG changes are coming...soon.

    Isn't that just a tiny bit naive? I hear what you are saying but you are talking about a big country with enormous economic and political power-bases... how would you like to take on Silicon Valley and all the tech giants?. They basically ignored the first amendment in order to censor free speech globally. That's serious power! Again, it's not a problem with the local school board we're dealing with here.
     
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    Where the hell did you get that idea?
     
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    Why do you assume they “could care less”. THAT is what we have a free press for - so we can “whistle blow” and stir up controversy - that soon gets politicians caring BELIEVE are! But we also have internal checks and balances - the ultimate here is the Coroners Court. If there is a suspicious death it goes to the Coroner to investigate and a formal report is generated with recommendations for change, and this is published online. Take one example - Ryan’s Rule. Because of the death of a child where the parents complained that no one was listening to them about how sick their child had been the entire state health department instituted Ryan’s Rule so, anyone who was a relative could call for an independent medical practitioner to review the case.
    https://www.kidspot.com.au/lifestyl...n/news-story/191ff29e079769ec954201f54fecd923

    Not there yet for all of Aus but similar rules are being considered - does ANY American health care system have anything equivalent?


    Oh! Dear! Look it up. WE Aussies have assisted YOU in more conflicts than YOU have assisted US. As for “technology and inventions” - we pull ABOVE our weight one example - who do you think invented cardiac pacemakers?

    well, it is obvious that you have no idea how advanced Aus is and how innovative - we invented some pretty world changing stuff

    https://www.australiangeographic.co...australian-inventions-that-changed-the-world/

    Try Wi Fi and Google maps as just two

    But bottom line - our life expectancy is almost three years longer than yours

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
     
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    It was widely reported in the news. Illegal because the president has no authority to change legislation unilaterally (even though Obama did many times with Obamacare), and the Inspector General ruled that his withdrawal of tens of millions of dollars from a HHS research fund to make up the now shortfall in Obamacare because he would no longer realize the Medicare Advantage savings was illegal.
     

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