Waiting for Superbatteries They are still a long way from matching the energy density of liquid fue

Nobody knows, Tesla refuses to say.

 

Yep, it only took half a century for that to happen.

The first commercial cars were being sold in 1894. We still had horse drawn wagons in daily use in the US into the 1950s.

Almost all transportation in WWI was by horse, and that was over two decades after the first cars were sold. It was still a major means of transportation in WWII. Germany moved most of it's supplies by horses, that is why they had almost 3 million of them in military service (and 6 mounted divisions). The Soviets were even worse, with over 3.5 million horses in their military. And 80 cavalry divisions. And all that is over half a century after the introduction of the automobile.

Oh, and the US used over 52 thousand horses in WWII. But those were used primarily in the Pacific, where the jungles and terrain in the islands made it impossible in many places to use vehicles to move supplies. The Jeep may have been the "work horse" of battle in Europe, but in the Pacific it was still actual horses.

 

You think that technology could not be made to do a battery pack transfer robotically? It's literally two connections to a mainframe

 

Oh, so now it's robotically.

Once again, just how big are these batteries? Lifting those will probably take some subtantial hardware. And it has nothing to do with how many connections to some as yet undefined mainframe. That's probably a minimum of a 4000 lb overhead crane like we use in the factory.

So, once again slowly, how much does that battery weigh?

 

Under current technology, battery swapping can't happen, or won't happen due to the weight and time it would take.

As technology advances, it's a possibility, just as electric tools have gone from cable to battery. It's probably only one way they could make useless EV's more viable, those who can't charge from home would benefit.

But touch wood, I won't be buying one.

 

The technology is already developing such as curved graphene supercapacitor batteries.

Unless you're in your 90's you'll be eating those words soon enough.

 

It always was robotically. I said that driverless trucks is where EVs might be viable, no people needed in the process. And you won't need cranes; a hydraulic system would do the job. The mainframe is the truck

 

Having worked for NHTSA, I'd wager batteries will never be allowed to be easily seperable from the car itself. That would be a liability nightmare.

 

I really don't care what technology comes out. On board energy storage (batteries) will never compete with on board energy release (ICE). Batteries are always downstream of substantial losses.

Enjoy eating your words.

 

From what I've seen, driverless anything on road has maxed out. There's not enough computer power in the universe to match the human brain.

And again, I doubt NHTSA will ever allow the battery to be easily separated from the vehicle.

But you're free to keep waiting.

 

Yeah we'll never have man-made flight or go to the moon either.

"I mean everything that can be invented has already been invented" and other ridiculous Luddite nonsense.

 

No.

 

No, it is yet another of the many scams floating out there taking the money of the stupid.



Big clue word. The more ambiguous buzzwords that are thrown into a technology that does not even exist yet, the more likely it is to be a total scam.

Fancy videos with lots of computer graphics, check.
All kinds of promised due to "advanced future tech", check.
Promising it "shortly", check.
Tons of stock footage and no actual photos of people or products beyond mockups, check.

I just can't help laughing, as people fall for this kind of crap over and over again. But never realize that the promises are never delivered.

 

*facepalm*

What do you think makes cranes work, pixies?

 

That's a bit of a logical fallacy.

Just because the wild west had snake oil salesmen didn't mean that modern medicine wouldn't solve problems people didn't think was possible. Just because the world was full of snake oil salesmen it didn't stop actual progress.

My point to the person I was arguing with is that what seems impossible now isn't truly impossible.

It's only impossible due to your existing paradigm.

Who saw Einstein's "spooky action at a distance" (modern quantum entanglement theories) 10 years before he theorized it?

Like I told him, the technology we have now would be indistinguishable from magic for those who lived with the paradigm people had 200 years ago.

Something will undoubtedly be discovered, because that is what humans do.

 

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Oh man now I have to clean my monitor.

Ask him about automatic transmissions next.

They basically have the modern equivalent to the Library of Alexandria at their fingertips and they just can't be ****ing bothered to use their brain to type in "how do cranes work" before answering.

 

You clearly don't get the utter absurdity of what you're pushing. You never did really good in science classes, did you?

 

You mean like the science that used to talk about the canals on Mars, or that the universe consisted of one galaxy, or that the Earth was the center of the universe?

How about some leeches?

 

Makes you wonder why we didn't go straight from oil lamps to lithium ion huh.

 

Right. You clearly couldn't buy a clue.

 

No, I'm an engineer. I stayed awake during science classes.

 

No, but I can pass down all my lithium ion batteries to the future, since they'll never come up with anything better.

Why don't you explain to the class why batteries won't get better.

I mean it's not humanly possible for us to create a battery that charges faster or is more efficient, which is why we have lead acid batteries in our phones. Oh wait, no, we don't.

 

So you have tunnel vision based on what you know now, is what you're saying.

I wonder why Egyptian engineers didn't just build some nice hydraulic cranes.

 

Who in the hell is talking about "Wild West"? It happens right not.



That by the way was just stock footage, of a facility that did not exist.

What, do you mean that you have never heard of Theranos?

Oh, 97% of the bullshit things people vomit up in these kinds of threads are not real. Oh, there is a lot of hype over them, but notice something. They almost never actually exist.



They are trying to get people to sink money into their test, and are looking for suckers. See enough of them, and one can learn to smell the lingering bullshit as soon as they see one.

The more and more they use stock footage and CGI and not showing actual things, the more you know it is all bullshit. But a lot of the low IQ types really do seem to love bullshit.

The problem with Theranos is that they got too greedy, and made claims of a medical nature that put actual lives at risk.

And I long ago realized that trying to talk to people that fall for this kind of crap is pointless. They would rather die than admit they were fooled.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGafQebs988

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHlS_oQqA4E

And the funny thing is, I am sure that many believe all of the things above are real. They are not, they are-were all scams. But some people just love being scammed.