Jews are Black (Negro), they were always considered "African" by any society. Genetically (DNA), socially, historically, religiously, culturally Jews are / were "black". Jewish DNA is European and traces back to khazaria, Germany, Russia and not Israel or Africa. Yeshua was a Jew, not Jewish. Thanks.
See what idid there. The sign of a weak argument, when you can merely flip it and make as much sense. Thanks for the leg work mate.
Some Jews are black some Jews are white some Jews are mixed race some juice are even Asian. Judaism is in the race it's a religious belief. Israelite isn't a race it's a nationality.
Wrong. The facts are clear. DNA studies show Jews trace to the Levant (Middle East), not Africa. Some current populations of Jews show mixed DNA because of intermarriage. Ethiopian Jews show mixture with Africans. Ashkenazi show mixture with South European (partocilarly Greece). Etc. In no ancient literature are Jews considered African. If you have proof otherwise, show it. No, you did not do your research. The Khazar theory claims that a group of Turkic people converted to Judaism and are today known as Ashkenazi Jews. They were not originally Jews, so they do not have the DNA lineage of a Jew. "Turkic" regions are large but the specific people that converted to Judaism are believed to have been from the Khazakstan/Crimea/Ukraine/Russia area. I wrote, "Jesus was a Jew".
Wrong. The facts are clear. DNA studies do not show white Jewish Europeans trace to israel or Africa, which is where Israel is. Most current populations of white jewish europeans show mixed DNA because of anybody and his mom can become Jewish if they can afford a few pounds. Ethiopian Jews show mixture with Africans which proves they are real Jews. Ashkenazi show mixture with north European as is evidence by their blue eyes, blond hair and Germanic names. In no ancient literature are Jews considered White. If you have proof otherwise, show it. No, you did not do your research. The Khazarians were a group of Turkic people converted to Judaism and are today known as Ashkenazi Jews. They were not originally Jews, so they do not have the DNA lineage of a Jew. "Turkic" regions are large but the specific people that converted to Judaism are believed to have been from the Khazakstan/Crimea/Ukraine/Russia/germany area. Yeshua was a REAL Jew, not jewISH
Jews dna originates from the people of the Levant. That’s science. I never wrote Jesus was Jewish, I wrote Jesus was a Jew. Pay attention when you read.
it's also irrelevant to being an israelite. The Greeks, Romans, Iraqi, Iranians, Mongolians even crusaders from Britain all have DNA from the Levant because they all conquered and occupied the region for thousands of years. Your observation is totally irrelevant, with all due respect. Plus, when you mention Jews, who are you even referring too? So called African Americans claim they are Jews, so maybe you're saying so called African Americans are descended from the Levant. Who knows what you're referring to.
Jews trace their DNA lineage root to the Levant. Not to Egypt or other parts of Africa. And if you believe the Bible, Abraham is the root of Jews and Abraham came from Ur in the Mesopotamian Valley - the Levant. It goes to the heart of your claim. Jews do not originate in Africa. Now you are being deliberately obtuse.
Jews trace their DNA lineage root to Egypt and west Africa. And if you believe the Bible, Abraham is the root of Jews and Abraham came from Ur in the Mesopotamian Valley. It goes to the heart of your claim. Jews originate in Africa as do all humankind Now you are being deliberately obtuse
This is, of course, a point that has little to do with anything, save geography. The OP's premise seems to intend to rely on an assumption that all the peoples of Africa were once connected, which has never been the case. That is an interesting quirk of African geography, topography, & climate: the way it kept different tribes of people, separated. The indications are that there never existed the large scale, continent wide commerce and cultural exchanges in Africa, as there existed through, and even between, Europe & Asia. In the most general description, Africa remained relatively disunited, because it is long & thin, w/ both many different landscapes, and numerous climates. This resulted in the development of different types of cultures (unlike along latitudes where one could find similar practices, as far as planting and harvesting, for example-- which translated into similar traditions, allowing peoples to find more aspects of their different societies to which they, nevertheless, could relate). While this is still just a theory, I recommend the very interesting (yet academically presented), video, below.
I see, rather than do some actual intellectual work you just repeat my arguement but change a word or two. Your credibility: zero. Your arguement: Lost.
That is a Roman, Greeks and Romans conquered AEgypt, made mummies and even pretended they were Pharaoh's. That find above dated from the Ptolemaic period (305–30 B.C.) through to the Roman era (30 B.C.—390 A.D.).
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-dangerous-rise-of-black-hebrew-israelites/ Most people probably haven’t heard of the Black Hebrew Israelites. Those who have encountered them in American cities likely remember them as nothing more than street preachers in tacky garments, incoherently ranting on street corners. But in recent years they have been gaining notoriety. During the viral standoff at the Lincoln Memorial with the Covington Catholic students, the confrontation started with Black Hebrew Israelites hurling insults at the students, calling them “a bunch of incest babies” and “dirty ass little crackers“. In December 2019, a gunman who adhered to an extreme version of Black Hebrew ideology shot up a Kosher supermarket in New Jersey. Now, more people have become aware of them because of the recent anti-Semitism of Kyrie Irving (this week Black Hebrew Israelites marched in support of the basketball player) and Kanye West, who repeated some of the talking points commonly uttered in Black Hebrew Israelite circles. Namely, that black people are the ‘real’ descendants of the ancient Israelites, not Jews. Black Hebrew Israelism is an ideology which holds that all the original Jews of the Bible were black and that Zion is located in Ethiopia. When the kingdom of Israel fell the Israelites were scattered across the African continent and then later selectively targeted by enemy African tribes, who captured and sold them to European slave traders. Jews, then, for Black Hebrew Israelites, are frauds. They are white interlopers who have stolen and distorted an ‘African religion’, wrongfully claiming it as their own. Frank Cherry, one of the founders of Black Israelite groups in the early 20th century, professed that Jesus would return to start a race war where blacks would win over white people to institute divine justice. It should be noted that most Black Hebrew Israelites, while very reactionary — even hateful — aren’t violent. Like other black nationalists, they preach communal self-empowerment and a ‘return’ to traditional values. There is, however, an extremist fringe that is more bellicose and which actively promulgates the worst anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. The propaganda film Irving linked to, Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America, for instance, is laced with all sorts of anti-Semitic tropes: Holocaust denial, claims that Jews are Luciferians, and that the Atlantic Slave Trade was a Jewish racket. Black Hebrew Israelites are obviously a racist cult. Their creed is as wacky and crackpot as Scientology; their historical revisionism is based on Afrocentric myth. Yet, it is concerning to see how their mantra that ‘black people are the real Jews’ has permeated into some sectors of African-American consciousness, given that big-time celebrities like West, Irving, and DeSean Jackson and Nick Cannon before them, have amplified some of these views to their fanbase, and figures who still carry water for them. It is also interesting to note that — alongside this blatant anti-Semitism — is a kind of ‘Jew envy’. Envy has long been part of anti-Semitism, but with black nationalists the envy isn’t simply of the supposed power or wealth of Jews as with traditional anti-Semitism. Rather, it pertains to their ethnic solidarity and adamantine communal consciousness, as well as their entrepreneurial success and cerebral accomplishments. That is despite being a small minority, which they believe black people should emulate. If an envy of Jews exists among black nationalists, it’s almost expected that some of them would make the jump to appropriate Jewish mythology and culture with a tendentious Afrocentric agenda, in order to endow the black Americans they see as ‘rootless’ and ‘deprived of history’ with communal ‘greatness’. The idea of black ‘chosenness’ has been around since the late 19th century, when among America’s recently emancipated slaves the notion that they were really God’s chosen people was ignited. This is why it still retains a cache into the present day among some black people. But chasing ‘chosenness’ in this way will always be elusive and lead only to the toxic swamp of racial animus that at its worst, as the 2019 New Jersey shooting showed, can be lethal. This will never stop being funny, and the people who pretend it is are not unlike flat erfers.
Exactly! And because South American continent separated from the African Plate we should start calling South America – West Africa or CPBtA (Continent Previously belonged to Africa). I also declare Israel, Lebanon and Syria to be called from now African countries. --------------------------------- You cannot convince idiots, so instead of arguing - agree with them, making their ideas even more stupid, because arguing with a fool proves there are two.
it was called pangea then, not africa. it became africa once it was separated. israel is also in africa, technically speaking. politically speaking, israel is in europe though.
The logic of this thread is absurd. Is Israel is not in Africa either culturally, historically, linguisticaly, politically. Israelite history was dominated by contacts with Rome, Greece and Persia, all of which are not in Africa. Hebrew is a Semitic language, related to Assyrian and other linguistic groups NOT in Africa.
It should matter to you that you are wrong. Or maybe you're a rebel, as in bad being good. Purple hair. That type of thing.
There are several East African countries that are not on the African plate. By your twisted and warped logic, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, are "not African". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Plate?wprov=sfla1
In fact, Israel itself, being geologically situated as it is on the African tectonic plate, is a part of Africa. Never mind Eurovision and the Euroleague, Israel is surely not in Europe! - Haaretz.com. iguess not all isrelis are white supremacists after all! (sacrcasm). iknow there are a few good israelis its just that white supremacy is so deeply embedded in white culture that there is this unconcious bias.
