Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. chris155au

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    There's actually footage of Boyland being trampled on?
     
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    Get it now?
     
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    Yes. Video has been available for over two years. If you actually cared about that day, you would have wanted to research multiple sources and see for yourself.

    40 minute video linked below. You will see step by step, hour by hour how this unfolded.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/us/jan-6-capitol-attack-takeaways.html
     
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    How does that make it connected to the Tucker Carlson footage?
     
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    Funny how the guided tour that the Shaman received is not mentioned.
     
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    Ok. Now is there anything in that video which is false?
     
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    Yes, you did.

    "Favorable or unfavorable" - "Yes or no?" I assume that you see the problem here. Please re-phrase.

    So the footage does NOT show the cops showing him around?

    Do you have reason to believe that Epps did NOT remain at the Capitol for at least another half an hour?

    Uh, which conspiracy theory?
     
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    I already sourced a video in another thread that shows the Shaman entering the Capitol through a broken door without Police escorting him. If you really cared to get the policemans story in his own words talking about why he escorted him throughout the Capitol once the shaman got to where he was patrolling, then watch the HBO documentary called 4 hours at the Capitol. The police talk about what they went through minute by minute and why they did what they did.

    Again, all of this information has been available for years. Tucker is not showing anyone anything that hasn't already been shown before. But Tucker will not show you the policeman speaking about why he walked with the shaman. The HBO documentary allowed the police to tell their story without someone like Tucker pretending that it was no big deal.
     
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    Do you not believe she was trampled to death? Did you also know there was a third trumpist that died that day during the riots? He had a cardiac arrest during the attack. Again, Tucker won't share that with his audience. I wonder why?
     
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    I didn't say that he walked into the Capitol WITH police escorting him.

    Oh, the shaman footage was previously shown?
     
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    The video moved on from that and onto something else. Do you know what it is? You should watch it again.
     
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    Yes! I already told you this! Did you not read what I posted or are you having difficulties understanding the words??

    Again. HBO aired a documentary almost 2 years ago that shows the footage of the shaman walking with the police and that documentary has the actual cop talking about that day and why he chose to walk with him.
     
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    Why are you focused on the last 20 seconds? LOL The video showed a trumpist being trampled to death by her fellow trumpists.
     
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    Because if the last 20 seconds is a lie, then I question what came before it.
     
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    You referred to "the HBO documentary called 4 hours at the Capitol", saying that "the police talk about what they went through minute by minute and why they did what they did." Nowhere did you say that the documentary actually showed the footage.

    From what I have read since you told me about it, he said that he was outnumbered. The problem with that is that the Shaman is clearly the only person walking down the corridors with the cops. Anyway, why was this footage not included in the Jan 6 Committee report? They showed all of the other footage of the Shaman, so why not this?
     
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    You question what your eyes show you?? LMAO
     
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    Why are reds and Tucker only focused on the shaman? He is just one of hundreds if not thousands that were arrested that day for what they did?
     
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    Again, the video moved on from that bit with the trample footage. Do you know what it moved onto? You should watch it again.
     
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    He was made the face of the event. The leader of the coup/insurrection! Some leader! :roflol:
     
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    Suppressed for good reason—not for political/partisan reasons. See further down why most of the surveillance footage was not released to the public.

    Tucker didn't fabricate the footage, but he did a bang up job of cherry picking.

    About you: Judging from your past postings you're an obvious right-winger (a Trumper? I don't know).
    About Carlson: Is it not obvious?
    About Fox News: Is it not obvious?

    What do you think I've been doing all this time?

    Tucker's portrayal of J6 is the whole point.

    The public was provided more than enough footage in the months since J6 (including footage provided by J6'ers by phone/social media) to understand what happened, and Tucker's J6 story doesn't add or take away from what the public already knew.

    (Aug 30, 2021) Given the vast amount of other video evidence from Jan. 6 that was already public, Tobin said, “there’s nothing left to protect in terms of vantage points.”

    Surveillance footage has been a wellspring of evidence for the FBI agents and prosecutors building cases against the nearly 600 people charged with participating in the riots. They’ve used it to bolster the mountain of evidence scattered across social media and other publicly available sources. Screenshots from these videos frequently crop up in charging papers as the government’s proof that a defendant was in a specific area of the Capitol at a specific time.

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    The thousands of hours of footage wasn't suppressed for the reasons you believe, nor was it a political/partisan decision. In short, here's the reason why most of the footage was initially kept from the public.

    (Aug 30, 2021) “Such disclosure would reveal information that could be used by anyone who might wish to attack the Capitol in the future,” Friedman wrote.

    The Capitol Police limited access to surveillance footage long before Jan. 6. In a March affidavit, the government has relied on in fights over videos, the Capitol Police’s chief lawyer Thomas DiBiase described the CCV system as the “backbone” of security for the buildings and grounds that make up the Capitol complex. Footage isn’t backed up to the cloud, and typically can only be viewed at specific workstations. When a member of Congress wanted video of a staffer interaction with officers, the agency made him come to an office to see it, under the supervision of an employee, he wrote.

    Defendants and their lawyers are getting access to surveillance footage, but only under protective orders that restrict their ability to make the videos and other evidence they receive from the government public.

    In an Aug. 13 ruling, the judge sided with the government and kept the two surveillance videos from DeGrave’s case under seal. US District Judge Paul Friedman wrote that the security risks the government had identified outweighed the presumption of public access to criminal case proceedings and evidence under the First Amendment and what’s known as “common law.”

    (source) https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/insurrection-capitol-footage-secret

    I can't speak for others, but for me, the truth (facts) is all I'm concerned with, which is why I don't subscribe to any party. I have to admit, however, that between the two parties, the Dems are the lesser of the two evils.

    But when the right admits en masse that their party can no longer be called 'Republican' (whatever that meant), but has turned into a non-partisan party of crackpots revolving around a certifiably insane tin-pot dictator, then reasonable people take them more seriously. Right now the GOP is a bunch of do-nothing clowns running a 3-ring circus without an ounce of desire to improve people's lives. In fact, their newest circus act is to waste more taxpayer money by 'investigating' the events surrounding Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan. They must be realizing that the Hunter Biden circus act isn't going to amount to anything. (Of course they couldn't get anything on Joe Biden, so they went after his son.) You'd think they would've learned by now after 'investigations' failed to overturn the election. What desperate move will they take next? Will they 'investigate' Kamala Harris, or perhaps Joe Biden's dog?
     
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    You mean the way Fox news/right-wing media portrays BLM and Antifa?
     
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    Not exactly suppressed but simply not shown. It's not unlike a prosecutor not presenting video of a bank robber doing normal banking the month before, that wasn't a crime, but video showing the bank robber in action demanding money with a gun in hand THAT is a crime and relative to the trial. The same is true here, what is relevant is video of crimes occurring not video of when they were not committing crimes. FOX, well Congress really, should put all 40K hours online for anyone to look at. But to leave it to this FOX doofus to decide what should be see is obscene. Yes, obscene is the right word.
     
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    Ok...two rioters died. Incase you can't tell I don't care much when rioters died. So small details like getting shot in the throat versus chest? Don't care.

    Getting shot because you were chasing Rittenhouse? Don't care. I don't encourage rioting nor do I feel bad when rioters die in the process of rioting.

    Don't riot.
     
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    Portrayed them exactly as they were
     

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