The Diversity Experiment Has Failed Spectacularly...Bring Back The BEST QUALIFIED People!!

It's a religion, it doesn't matter whether it's BS or not.

 

Once it begins to interfere with people making money...it's history. Plus it's moronic. People will distance themselves from it once it becomes uncool.

At least religion has something at its heart. This is more like a cult.

 

To be honest I am not sure how that would work. I was involved in hiring for many years and I am not sure how much effort was put into best qualified. What does it mean to be best?

 

well we need less MAGA republican in office for sure, do not need diversity in crazy

 

diversity to the corps nowadays means hiring employees from overseas

diversity training means helping train these people to take your jobs

we keep down this path.... India will control the information... and information is power... that is a national security risk

corps are not looking for most qualified, they are looking for cheapest paid

 

I started typing out a long and detailed answers but then I realized that I was disclosing way too much personal and corporate information. I will try to give a brief summary. I started out as a programmer of a small startup about 25 year ago. We did not have a formal HR department etc and the team leads like myself were tasked with hiring new programmers. We had very strict standards so will were only interviewing the top 10-15% from extremely reputable schools. Pretty much every candidate was extremely qualified and we hired extremely strong programmers. The problem we found after time was everyone in the department was similar. I don't mean racially or ethnically but lets say of they were made from the same mold to keep it short. As the company grew we knew we had to take the department in a different direction. We needed a new type of programmer bringing new ideas, new approaches etc... I know you can argue that we changed the requirements but we didn't. We still hired the best and brightest. it was just that we choose the candidates that would bring something different to the team even if we did not know what it was when we went into the hiring process.

My point was no one can truly hire the best candidate because there is no easy measure of the best candidate at lest in our profession. The yardstick is, does this person meet all of our qualifications and if they do, we then look for the intangible qualities of what can they add to the team? Will they bring something different that can make the team better? You can say that we hired unfairly because another candidate has better marks or this candidate has better work experience but I don't really care. When we made the offer we were confident they could do the job and maybe another candidate was a better programmer or had more experience but this individual added something new that we believed had value. So if you were to simply look at qualifications on paper you can argue that we did not hire the best candidate but that did not matter. Now I look around the office and see many of those faces of people hired more than a decade ago in extremely valuable and important positions. People that would not be here if we were simply looking for the best and most experienced coder possible.

 

The resume of the pilot, without a photo, should be included with every ticket order, before its paid for.

Same with doctors before surgery.

It should be MANDATORY.

 

First, I appreciate your taking the time to articulate a positive example of diversity hiring at work.

It sounds like your company was more interested in hiring someone who could "think outside the box" rather than fulfilling a mandatory racial quota and that makes perfect sense.

It seems like your company had the freedom to hire qualified individuals without being forced to hire a certain number of specific minorities who were clearly unqualified and / or untrainable.

I am over 70 years old and already experienced the negative aspects of "Affirmative Action" both as a job applicant and as patient of two racist and grossly incompetent "doctors" who nearly killed me but were immune from any disciplinary action for the same reason they got their jobs; they were minorities.

Your experience with diversity hiring is a refreshing change from the many other negative experiences I and others have had simply because of racial quota systems.
Thanks for taking the time to write what you did.

 

After two years of the Biden admin mediocrity would be an improvement. Half those people shouldn't be let out in public without a minder, and the other half are dumb as a box of gravel.

 

The Diversity Experiment Has Failed Spectacularly...Bring Back The BEST QUALIFIED People!!

Diversity is a scourge. But we are stuck with it. All that is necessary is to ignore race, gender and the rest. Simple but apparently impossible.

 

I don't think they are dumb. They are just incompetent.

 

It's different for each business. The individual business owner needs to decide what's best, but I believe you can assume that qualities like conscientiousness, productive capacity, proficient communication skills, pleasant to be around, works well individually and with a team, etc., are important.

If your business is an area with a higher percentage of Spanish speaking folks you are probably going to want to hire somebody who is bilingual. All of this should be common sense.

If you choose to be an employee, then you need to make yourself as attractive as possible to a potential employer. They used to teach these sorts of things in school.

 

When people start losing enough money because of all of this non-sense, things will change.

 

There was not really a problem with people "thinking outside the box". We were a young company with talented people and almost everything we were making was new and outside the box of the old way our clients would do business. Our problem was more of a "group think" issue where a lot of the people thought, approached and solved problems the same way. By changing the type of the programmer we hired it changed the mix.

I think the key for diversity on a team or department is to never forget first rule is the candidate must meet all of your core qualifications. Education, work experience etc... Once you are choosing from a pool of qualified people you can then factor in intangibles which could add value to the company into the final decision. I think a lot of the problem with diversity come when you hire people that do not meet the qualifications of the job. I keep hearing people say hire the people best qualified but in the real world I don't see that existing, at least in our profession.

 

What "life experiences" are important in developing a new generation of telecommunications? I'd hire a hopeless nerd who lived in his mother's basement if he knew signal theory over a black man with "life experiences" who didn't.

 

What did you do? Start hiring smart programmers instead of mediocre ones?

My experience is that smart programmers are trying to show off how smart they are by coming up with novel solutions. Life experiences not needed.

 

You've gotta be a boomer, because the idea that "Once it begins to interfere with people making money...it's history," dates back to the 80's when it was in fact true, but hasn't been true in many years. Movie and TV production companies are willing to tank the very IP's that they spent millions purchasing in order to please online Twitter, Disney decided that kids really needed to see gay relationships in their animated movies, no matter how badly those movies bombed...Just because something is moronic doesn't mean the whole world won't follow it.

 

I am. Money has been a supreme motivator for thousands of years. A cult of complete morons is not going to change that because eventually these morons will be the greediest of them all. This is what happened to the BB's who were all idealistic and non-materialistic. Human nature is what it is no matter the current fad.

 

No, as I said we were already recruiting programmers in the top 10-15% of their class. We reviewed transcripts as well as thoroughly vetted resumes. Although we did not have it during the time I was hiring, our company now makes applicants write technical exams as part of the interview process. Hiring smart programmers was not the problem.

I am not sure what field of tech you are in but my experience has been that life experience makes a tremendous difference. I think for extremely large corporations where the programmer's job is only to crunch out code you may have a point but our people had much greater portfolio of responsibilities.

 

It's not about backgrounds, education-experience-successes-accomplishments it's about physical attributes.

 

What "experience" would a black dude have that I don't that would make them a better accountant for instance? Or installing the seats in a car factory? Or putting roofs on houses? All simply because of their race.

 

Just because someone is black they will get along better with others than someone who is white? What if my team is all white would a black guy get along better than all the whites would?

 

And does race make a difference in that? What if you have to resume's with references and you called the references (imagine we are several decades back when you could still do so and get honest answers) and for the first the former employer said that they did a mediocre job, qualified but nothing outstanding but they really go along with everyone and the other said they did an outstanding job, best we ever hired found ways to improve the job and make it more productive but was not the friendliest most sociable person on the staff. Which would you hire.

 

Race makes no difference. If a person is only mediocre at their job then to me they aren't qualified. Just leave it at that. I'm not interested in your coming back with 800 different scenarios beating this to death.

 

Human nature also includes a fealty to all kinds of religious and ideological faiths, no matter how wacky, deadly, or "moronic" they are. I hear after almost every outrage that we've hit peak woke, but you know what? It's still chugging along.