Hello...I am liberal from Maryland

some fool wakes up a year old welcome thread and you see it as an opportunity to spout anti-conservative drivel. i think we can all see what orifice your head is firmly lodged in.

 

I am a conservative but the terrorists who attacked our Capital are nothing more than MAGA mongrels urged on by a wanna be fascist who is not a Republican or a conservative he is nothing more than a very good con artist. Before you go off making false anal accusations about other members here pop your head out of smelly orifices and learn what a conservative is.

 

They must have thought it was opposite day or something.

 

Such a completely backwards and transparent misrepresentation of actual reality. But I did get a good chuckle out of it.

 

Pardon me.

Just checking to see if you are a serious person or not.

Which was worse: the riot on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, or the BLM riots?

 

That is like saying who is worse Hitler or Stalin. Both were monsters and both caused millions to be murdered. One by poison gas and s all arms fire. The commie caused millions to be killed by the execution by hunger.
The Jan 6 “riot” or as I consider it a terrorist attack on our Capital was for the most part confined to the Capital. A sick aspect of the Jan. 6 attack is that it’s impetus came from a sitting president who motivated his most ardent followers to commit criminal acts by blatantly lying about election results.That President also motivated and demanded that our laws and worse yet our Constitution be violated by trying to stop a peaceful transition of power by his ridiculously criminal fantasy that the election was “stolen”.

BLM was or is a movement that arose out of the reaction to Blacks being killed by police in both wrongful and rightful reasons. It lacked having a signification know leader and was mostly an unorganized set of independent political gangs. BLM by being unorganized and lacking the control of a centralized leadership exposed itself to be used as an excuse by criminal elements to commit riots, looting, and bodily injury. Criminal elements imbedded themselves in with the demonstrators and then broke ranks and committed criminal acts which on the surface appeared to be fostered by BLM. Make no mistake BLM is responsible for the criminal acts due to it’s inaptitude and lack of control and lack of vetting who was joining their demonstrations.

The one aspect of Jan6 and BLM that are very similar is that both claimed they were supposed to peaceful demonstrations that morphed into violent acts.
Both attracted evil / criminal groups. Jan6 attracted NEO.Nazis, White Supremacists , Proud Boy and other types who smelled an opportunity to cause turmoil. BLM attracted another poorly organized loose set of groups called Antifa which was nothing but a bunch of evil actors who smelled an opportunity to cause criminal acts. BLM also set up the conditions as I mentioned above for riots, lotting , and starting fires in businesses and home right in the same neighborhoods that BLMers were from. Sick and ironic.

Bottom line both are very wrong and it is just as wrongs for any Republicans to give Trump and his MAGA.Lites a pass for Jan6 as it is for Democrats to give a pass to BLM for the intended or unintended criminal acts of it’s fans.

 

I have no idea what anyone really means when they throw out the term liberal and conservative. It certainly doesn't refer to the classic examples of say Edmund Burke for Conservative ideology or say Jeremy Bentham for Liberalism. It usually is an attempt to label people as left or right of some supposed centre point and liberal being left and conservative being right so Democrats left and Republicans to the right.

I think as we can see say in the US there are conservative Democrats and Liberal Republicans in that sense since no one appears consistent in any views and are a mix of left and right views some more extreme to one side than the other.

When I was growing up my idea of a liberal American was Martin Luther King, JFK, RFK, Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern who were Democrats. Today Republicans like Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Nelson Rockefeller, Abe Lincoln could easily be called liberal by right wing Republicans because of many of their views. So would Arnold Schwarznegger and Mitt Romney.

People call Trump a Republican and a Conservative. He is neither. He calls himself that but he is neither. He is closet to the definition of a fascist which is an extreme version of liberalism just like libertarianism is an extreme form of conservatism and turns into anarchism.

There's fine line where people go when they get extreme and on forums people bounce all over the place but some are very Trump partisan and anti Biden.

I hope you appreciate my highest form of flattery would be to debate you. Other then that I am a typical smelly fat head and harmless. Welcome.

 

Edit:Xyce I wrote this before Partizan responded to you. I now defer to his words.


Why are you asking him what is worse, gonorrhea or syphilis? Did he not tell you he has a problem with either for the same reasons? You ask the question because you need to use rigid black and white definitions. Violence is violence.

If you really need to choose sides go ahead. Partizan is trying to be consistent with his standards as to violence and I totally agree. Both are equally as problematic.

I could say and so could Partizan knowing his past opinions he could have said the Capital Hill riots were worse in that they were led by the US President whereas the BLM ones were not.

However it would deflect from the point he made and that is extremism on either side of the spectrum is equally as problematic and ends up one and the same.

 

I support all Partizan's comments.. I am not a Republican or Democrat, I am a poop head.

 

I'm not going to go point to point with you on each claim you made in that post, but I will ask this. In summary, it appears that you are saying both the riot on January 6th was wrong, and the BLM riots were wrong. Then why are you singling out Republicans? Name me one Democrat on this forum that openly denounced the BLM riots when they were happening. Name me one Democrat who made a forum thread about any of the violence of BLM, including the burning of police stations. Yes, police stations. Plural. Name me one. Why go after Republicans on this board, but you don't go after the Democrats who, at the very least, implicitly endorsed the rioting through their silence? That's giving a lot of grace there and places your motivations here up to question.

 

No, they are not equally problematic. BLM was worse, by every objective metric. More people died in the BLM riots. The BLMS riots lasted longer. More police were injured during the BLM riots. And the BLM riots cost more in financial damage. So, no, they are not equally problematic. Additionally, I question Partizan because he seems to go after Republicans, calling us fascists, but didn't seem to be bothered by the BLM riots. And both of you are wrong by saying that they are both equally bad. They're not. The BLM riots were worse. Way worse.

 

Which caused more damage and personal injury?

 

Apparently not many have noticed that the person who started this thread hasn't been active here for the last 13 months... and some here are still welcoming today this person who seems to be a former member who didn't like the site and never came back. Kind of funny.

 

You personally attacked the wrong poster who revived the old thread.
What orifice does your head reside in then for getting it wrong?

 

Which one stopped the democratic process of certifying the next POTUS?
Which one sent all members of congress scrambling to hide?

Which one did illegal things based on lies of a stolen election?

What BLM riots are you referring to? Any BLM members convicted? There should have been.

 

What BLM riots am I referring to?

Hmm.



Let me think here.

Hmm.



What were those so-called BLM riots?

Hmm.



You know, I had the answer a moment ago, truly.

Hmm.



The answer's at the tip of my tongue.

Hmm.



You know what, I'll have to get back to you on that.

 

Hmm, pics with no links.

 

That is a false comparison and the same as asking who is a better guy a pedophile who molests 1 boy or a pedophile who molests 2 boys. Both are evil pedophiles who need LEGAL punishment that renders them unable to commit any more pedophile acts. The pedophile who commits one known act of pedophilia is no anggel just because there are other pdedophiles who committed more than one evil act.

The simple fact that the Jan6 terrorists “only” rioted for one day does not render them innocent citizens taking a walk through the park on a Sunday afternoon. The Jan6 terrorists were trying to stop a Constitution process that occurs ONCE every four years. The BLM urban terrorists were “protesting” multiple events of Blacks being killed either with cause or without cause and these killings rightful or not occurred in multiple cities and in multiple states.

Still it does not matter what the alleged motivation was for the two gangs of terrorists their actions are wrong , criminal and harmful to our country.

 

I openly denounced the BLM riots and looting

do you denounce Jan6

 

Okay, case closed, I think the question of whether you are a serious person or not has been answered.

There is a thing called degrees. We can compare, and the BLM riots were worse.

 

I denounce the rioting that occurred in the Capitol on January 6th, 2021. I don't remember seeing a quote from you denouncing the BLM rioting when it was happening. I'll have to use the forum search function to check on the veracity of your claim.

 

I have denounced rioting from both sides, I am consistent on that

 

Just because you cannot find something of mine condemning BLM caused riots does not mean anything. That would be like me saying that I cannot find any post of yours saying that you condemn pedophilia and then falsely concluding that you do not apples pedophilia. You do realize how false insane your insinuation is don’t you?
I am sure that you do not realize or do not care that I was not active here for nearly a year.
So you seem as if you care more about finding a gotcha on someone than engaging in honest debate. Playing gotcha games is intellectually dishonest and childish so hopefully you are not one of those.

 

I think you replied to the wrong post

 

Ooops I am sorry …. probably too late to delete. Sorry ! N