Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. chris155au

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    Waco was a military response?
     
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    Fox is a tiny cog in the Democrat Media Complex. So, for the majority of the mainstream media, it's funny that the "inaccuracies" always tend to go one way, which goes against one particular side of politics. How often do you see the media misreporting something which makes the left look bad?

    I find it thoroughly entertaining that you pick the Sicknick story as the worst example, and then pick the damning Dominion story for Fox! The fact that we are talking about the Sicknick story is no excuse. Do better!
     
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    Not me. I put it down to ignorance. On the right.
     
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    Yeah, you said if he was "an Antifa infiltrator he would have had to be aware of the mob's plans before hand. It's certainly possible, but it doesn't seem probable."
     
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    Nevertheless, it seems like an insane coincidence.
     
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    Are you saying that Carlson is skilled in "political propaganda smears?"
     
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    Yeah, to watch that documentary, sure. But that part of it has been reported in the media:

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells | The Hill

    “I don’t have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6. Those officers did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk to rioters into getting each other to leave the building,” Manger said.
     
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    As you can see in the first post of yours that I quote, the question is in purple, right? Is that not the question that you are referring to when you say: "so I repeat that question?"
     
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    What does ignorance on the right have to do with journalistic inaccuracies which make Republicans look bad?
     
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    Apparently. Alas.

    “The two Army officers at the Justice Department that day were Colonel Gerald Boykin, and his superior, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the head of Special Forces at Fort Bragg. Though Clark (who had served with Schoomaker) was not directly involved in the onslaught on the Branch Davidians, the role of the US Army in that affair throws into harsh relief the way prohibitions against the use of the US military for civilian law enforcement can be swiftly by-passed.

    Boykin and Schoomacher were present because the Army’s Fort Bragg-based Combat Applications Group-popularly known as the Delta Force-had been enlisted as part of the assault team on the Branch Davidian Compound. It appears that President Clinton had signed a waiver of the Posse Comitatus Act, with the precedent being Ronald Reagan’s revocation of the Act in 1987, allowing the Delta Force to be involved in suppressing the Atlanta prison riot.”
    COUNTERPUNCH, The Delta Force Was There, BY JEFFREY ST. CLAIR - ALEXANDER COCKBURN, JUNE 1, 1999.
    https://www.counterpunch.org/1999/06/01/the-delta-force-was-there/
     
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    Yes, but I do not think TC is motivated by ideological bias.
     
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    IOW, you know that this statement Is true: "In fact, DP politicians and the MSM believe elections and voting machines are rigged whenever they think they might lose an election." Ddy (Me ;-)) It helps to actually read the posts you reply to.

    Focus:
    Despite all of the ways foreign hackers have already made it into our election infrastructure, Congress has refused to arm state and county elections officials with the knowledge and funding they need to secure their systems,” Wyden said. “I fear the 2020 election will make 2016 look like small potatoes.”...
    NEWSPRESS RELEASES, Wyden Pushes to Pass Election Security on the Senate Floor, February 11, 2020.
    https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/p...to-pass-election-security-on-the-senate-floor

    Get it now? :)
     
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    He told them and you a ton of other lies too. Why are reds so gullible and willing to adore this dipshit con? LOL
     
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    Sandy Shanks said:
    The drone – a US-made MQ-9 Reaper – and two Russian Su-27 aircraft were flying over international waters over the Black Sea on Tuesday when one of the Russian jets intentionally flew in front of and dumped fuel on the unmanned aerial vehicle several times, a statement from US European Command said.
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    "My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time... Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.


    British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain spoke those ominous words to the British people in September, 1938, shortly after returning from Munich after making a deal with Adolf Hitler.
    A year later, Hitler invaded Poland, igniting World War Two -- the most calamitous war in human history.

    History repeats itself. In February, 2022, Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation bordering Poland.

    The leading Republicans for the Presidency in 2024, Donald Trump and Ron Desantis -- the best Republicans can offer -- are playing the role of Neville Chamberlain. They both think fighting for Ukrainian democracy and stopping Putin in his tracks is not worth our effort.

    In response to a questionnaire from Tucker Carlson of Fox News, DeSantis declared that the war between Russia and Ukraine was merely a “territorial dispute” — and one that does not involve America’s “vital national interests.

    In a recent radio interview with Sean Hannity, Trump indicated he would be willing to let Russia “take over something” as the price of peace, adding “you could’ve worked a deal.”

    Since these two are prominent in next year's Presidential race, it is readily apparent that this is what the rural grassroots Republican voter wants.

    Since Republicans seem incapable of speaking for themselves, others have to assume that role for them based on what they do and/or approve. They chose our President in 2016. Will we allow them to do it again?

    There is not one thread about the Republican Party by a Republican.
     
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    People with heart problems drop dead of heart attacks all the time. What about his situation constitutes an "insane coincidence"?

    Would you blame his death on jogging or heart disease if he died precisely one day after jogging? Would that also constitute an "insane coincidence"?
     
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    What is entertaining, is that you think this is some logical argument, from you, for dismissing all news, from the Dominion case. I have no idea, even what you are trying to say. But if it is that you are going to reject all MSM sources, out of hand, then obviously I can prove absolutely nothing about anything to you, through linking a source-- based on your rejecting those sources, in advance.

    FOX is not a "cog in the DEMOCRAT Media." It is the REPUBLICAN Media. If you don't even know that much, then this topic is far out of your depth of understanding.



    Asking me to provide your argument, for you, is very poor debate strategy. If you want to claim that all misreported news, in the MSM, "always tend(s) to go one way...against one particular side of politics," then the way you would do that, would be to offer a fulsome heap of examples. Or could you even find some media study, on this? IOW, it is your own (to this point, all but unsupported) argument, which needs to "do better!"

    Also, I would appreciate your trying to explain your points, in a less clouded way.
     
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    That is the way that English works. Why do you need to ask me this, or need more help from me, to single out my question? As my quotes say, I had asked you, more than once. The text in magenta (or purple) is one particular re-statement of my basic question. I had also pointed you, though, when you denied ever being asked anything like this, by me, to the question with which I'd ended my post to Ddyad, which you had originally answered, although without addressing that question, though it is the focal point, to which that entire post is directed.

    And I gave you a link to that post. So I am clueless, as to why you seem to still be at such a loss, in identifying my basic question, much less, offering any reply to it.
     
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    It seems too coincidental because...
    (1) he was young,
    (2) he was physically fit & of reasonable weight,
    (3) the job of a Capitol building cop is relatively quiet and boring, and
    (4) he died the very next day from a condition that young people rarely die of (well, except these days because of the toxic covid jab).

    People who die suddenly while exercising (including avid runners & athletes) don't normally die of stroke, but of heart attack.

    Take a look at Table 2 in the following study.

    Sudden Cardiac Death in Athletes
    Sudden cardiac death (SCD) is the most frequent medical cause of sudden death in athletes
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/

    Exercise and Acute Cardiovascular Events
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.107.181485
     
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    This guy was middle aged. Middle aged people with heart problems can and do die of heart attacks from time to time. That is truly not that uncommon of an event. Being mid 40's is fairly rare, but that is around the age it starts happening, and it is not always with some guy that is 450 lbs. It happens with otherwise healthy individuals. Sadly I had a friend in great shape that happened to around that age where you would have never guessed he would be the one.

    You didn't answer my question, so I will ask it again.

    If he had went jogging, and died of a heart attack the next day, do you blame his death on jogging 24 hours prior, or do you blame his death on his bad heart?
     
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    Sicknick was 42. That's young.

    He didn't die from a heart attack, so why do you keep referring to that when he died of a stroke?

    Depends on the individual. You have to do a medical workup. Every case is different. Obviously, with a heart attack, the person's heart is involved, but you have to go in and take a look to see if he had an existing heart condition that went undetected. If no overt abnormality is revealed in clinical tests (or an autopsy) then the cause of the heart attack will remain unknown.

    But this is a moot point anyway because Sicknick died from a STROKE.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-natural-energy.602314/page-3#post-1074092927
     
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    What does ignorance on the right have to do with journalistic inaccuracies which make Republicans look bad?
     
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    I did a thread search for any posts by you containing the words "relate to the overall January 6 narrative." It returns only one result:
     
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    When the hell did I talk about dismissing all news from the Dominion case?

    I am saying that you chose the Sicknick case as the example, seemingly the worst example, of inaccurate reporting from the left side of the media aisle, while choosing the Dominion case for Fox. So now you have the opportunity to think really hard, and come up with a more significant example. Or is the Sicknick story about as bad as it gets for you?

    I referred to the "Democrat Media Complex", meaning that the media landscape is so utterly dominated by Democrat media, that Fox barely makes a dent in it. Name another corporation that is Republican.

    I asked you: How often do you see the media (non-Fox) misreporting something which makes the left look bad?
    That is hardly asking you to go and find evidence to support my argument. It's just a question. Can you answer it?

    Well let's start with many things related to 'Russia Gate.' Starting with the CLEARLY BOGUS 'Trump Dossier', which describes Trump's propensity for urinating on hookers! :roflol:

    The media’s epic fail on the Steele dossier (axios.com)

    Then there is this:

    Washington Post's 'find the fraud' correction points to larger issue with agenda-driven anonymous sources | Fox News

    So, can you point to any misreporting by liberal media which goes the other way? You can't, can you?
     
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