Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday in Manhattan DA case

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  1. CharisRose

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    I’m sure, as well.:)
    My :twocents: This is simply the newest “trumped” up charge. It is simply the most recent charge amongst the many past failed “trumped” up charges.
    If, at first you don’t succeed with all of those political “trumped up” attempts just keep on trying over & over again to keep hope alive.
    The take down of Trump with hopes of witnessing handcuffs, a perp walk & Trump behind bars in a Federal Prison cell.
    Desired result is the prevention of Trump being allowed to run and potentially win any Federal U.S. Office, especially for POTUS in 2024.

    That is The American Way!
     
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    LOL!
     
  3. Izzy

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    Someones gotta tap that first domino,

     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You can bet he'll get Secret Service protection, even if he's convicted.
     
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  5. Izzy

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    And his lawyers keep getting more unethical, stupider and more incompetent.
    They're on their way to joining 2 of Trump's disbarred lawyers.
    Roy Cohn
    Michael Cohen
     
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  6. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Has to be Trump Organization... Somebody earlier claimed it was from an account related to the campaign, but I don't think that's the case...

    I don't think it matters where it came from, only when and why....
     
  7. Egoboy

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    SNIP
    The formal dismissal of charges was filed in federal court in Greensboro, N.C., on Wednesday. The decision came less than two weeks after Edwards’s trial on the campaign finance-related charges ended when a jury deadlocked on five felony counts and voted to acquit him on one charge.
    ENDSNIP

    I guess you are both technically right, but he was WAY more right than you were, 5-1
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    I made a post on Tim Scott a few months back, he'd have my vote if he got through the nomination. Of course, I make no qualms or apologies about being a US Nationalist, or what others want to describe as 'far-right'. But right now, I'll take a stable, sane government and good leadership. I don't need the government of my choosing, I just need an effective one.
     
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  9. Izzy

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    This is why David Pecker, TNE, appeared before the Grand Jury.
    Karen McDougal is part of the investigation too.
    There's the audio tape of Cohen and Trump discussing how to pay off McDougal via David Pecker,and Trump's CFO Alan Weisselberg will sort it out.


    'The New York hush-money probe of Donald Trump explained'

    March 10, 2023

    WHAT IS THIS CASE ABOUT?

    "The investigation is about hush money payments to 2 women who alleged that they had extramarital encounters with Trump, who has denied their accounts of his infidelity.

    Specifically, District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s team appears to be looking at whether Trump or anyone committed crimes in arranging the payments, or in the way they accounted for them internally at the Trump Organization.

    HOW WERE THE PAYMENTS MADE?

    Cohen paid porn actress Stormy Daniels $130,000 through a shell company Cohen set up. He was then reimbursed by Trump, whose company logged the reimbursements as legal expenses.

    Earlier in 2016, Cohen also arranged for former Playboy model Karen McDougal to be paid $150,000 by the publisher of the supermarket tabloid the National Enquirer, which squelched her story in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill.”

    Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, “grossed up” Cohen’s reimbursement for the Daniels payment for “tax purposes,” according to federal prosecutors who filed criminal charges against the lawyer in connection with the payments in 2018."

    cont:
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-st...ent-new-york-f3ce87a1b4ec50fbeaefcbe21f87ab0b
     
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    Then the past 2 years were a good deal, my friend..

    Boring, but effective, until the GQP took over the House in January...

    Nothing can be effective with that level of insanity....
     
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    I don't know about the Trump Organization but do know that trump would try else where first to not spend his own money.

    I don't think using campaign money to pay back a concocted loan that was paid on your behalf to keep a porn star from talking is legal?
    From what I recall the left-over campaign money belongs to the candidate yet there are some restrictions on it..
     
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  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    And the DOJ dropped the charges. So, there
     
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    You dont have a clue. The money was Trumps money. The prosecutions argument is that Trumps money was actually a campaign contribution TO HIS OWN CAMPAIGN that wasnt reported as required. Arguing that he only paid her off because he was running for President. The only connection to the campaign is that Stormy thought because Trump was running for President her shakedown of Trump, 10 years after the fact would be more lucrative.
    Hes accused of the same thing Hillary did. Calling her payments to Fusion GPS to create the Russian Dossier as "Legal Fees". Hillary paid a fine to the election commission and was never prosecuted by anyone for falsifying records to make it appear to be legal fees.
    And then there is the issue that the state charges of falsifying records has a 2 yr statute of limitations and its been 7.
     
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    'Effective' depending on which political lens one views it through, I saw a fearmongering administration that gave up on coalition building within a few weeks, made a few weak edicts and is generally disliked by mostly everyone but the hard cores. Basically, he might be a smidge ahead of Trump.

    I don't want old men in office either. Tim Scott's young, Nikki Haley's young, etc. Even De Santis is a younger candidate. New blood in office.
     
  15. Egoboy

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    I'm for new blood as well.... I'd just like it running through a functioning heart....

    Until then, I'll take experience and competence....

    LOL at smidge ahead...
     
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    Your own link in #134 said so

    SNIP
    Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, “grossed up” Cohen’s reimbursement for the Daniels payment for “tax purposes,” according to federal prosecutors who filed criminal charges against the lawyer in connection with the payments in 2018."
    ENDSNIP

    I don't think using ANY money to pay back what was clearly a campaign related payment is legal...
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are being played like a violin by Trump.

    Question:

    Why would Cohen pay $130k to Stormy Daniels? How does Cohen Benefit?

    Answer, he did it for his Client, Donald Trump, in order to hide the fact that he, in fact, was acting as a conduit for the funds, that the funds being paid to her ultimately came from Trump, where Trump's reimbursements to Cohen will be disguised as normal legal expenses, which is why they were paid in $30k increments. What was the total of those increments?

    so, it begs the question: Did the incremental checks to Michael Cohen from Trump equal $130k, the amount Cohen paid to Stormy Daniels? I would imagine they do.

    Did Cohen provide any legal services to trump that equaled billable hours for the moneys he received? I don't see any evidence that he did.

    So, the act of disguising the payments is mens rea of a guilty state of mind.


    Now, all the prosecutor has to do is explain what law was broken, and Cohen was already convicted for it, "at the benefit for and direction of individiual-1"

    Who was Individual-1?

    Donald Trump.
     
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    And I'm positive there's a relevant point in there somewhere....
     
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    Is there going to get it this time and that's going to be different from every other time they tried because this time they mean it.

    Lol

    I wonder where we're going to start hearing about the tax returns again and it's always the default. After the inevitable fail of the scam.
     
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    The year is young and the list is getting shorter every day.... who knows?
     
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    I have not seen any indictment from the Hush Money. I have read that a decision is "imminent" but that is all, and that has been in the news for that "imminent" for a while now.

    My take, Trump is using this to take out the competition for the GOP nomination and to secure his supporters to vote for him and no one else, even if the DA issues an indictment on Tuesday does not mean an arrest is made on Tuesday.
     
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    iirc: A long time ago when Cohen was still lying for Trump I think I remember him saying that the money he was reimbursed didn't come campaign money or the Trump Foundation?
    I'm going to look a bit into this,.
     
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    One has to be indicted and charged first before one can be arrested. If no indictment comes, is that a FU by the judicial system? No. Just means no indictment has come that day. And generally, law enforcement and the DA are not in the habbit of telling when and where the indictment will come. They will use "soon" or "imminent" or not say anything at all. But all of this is to set a very low bar for his acolytes if it does not come on Tuesday to pressure Ron DeSantis not to come.
     
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    I bolded the fatal flaw in your scenario.....
     
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    I am surprised Trump is not asking for donation. He raised $250 million to fight the election fraud, but he decided he has better idea what to do with this money than to searching for evidence of the election fraud.

    So how much more money he needs?

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