Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday in Manhattan DA case

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  1. Izzy

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    Michael Cohen's plea deal.
    This is where the prosecutors were coming from on everything and everyone involved.
    The 2016 election was crucial and the motivating factor to shut these gals up,



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018

    'Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations'

    "Plea Follows Filing of Eight Count Criminal Information Alleging Concealment of More Than $4 Million in Unreported Income, $280,000 in Unlawful Campaign Contributions"


    Tiny snips:

    (Karen McDougal,Playboy Bunny)

    "In August 2015, the Chairman and Chief Executive of Corporation-1, a media company that owns, among other things, a popular tabloid magazine (“Chairman-1” and “Magazine-1,” respectively”), in coordination with COHEN and one or more members of the campaign, offered to help deal with negative stories about Individual-1’s relationships with women by, among other things, assisting the campaign in identifying such stories so they could be purchased and their publication avoided. Chairman-1 agreed to keep COHEN apprised of any such negative stories.

    Consistent with the agreement described above, Corporation-1 advised COHEN of negative stories during the course of the campaign, and COHEN, with the assistance of Corporation-1, was able to arrange for the purchase of two stories so as to suppress them and prevent them from influencing the election"

    .Stormy Daniels

    "The next day, on October 26, 2016, COHEN emailed an incorporating service to obtain the corporate formation documents for another shell corporation, Essential Consultants LLC, which COHEN had incorporated a few days prior. Later that afternoon, COHEN drew down $131,000 from the fraudulently obtained HELOC and requested that it be deposited into a bank account COHEN had just opened in the name of Essential Consultants. The next morning, on October 27, 2016, COHEN went to Bank-3 and wired approximately $130,000 from Essential Consultants to Attorney-1. On the bank form to complete the wire, COHEN falsely indicated that the “purpose of wire being sent” was “retainer.” On November 1, 2016, COHEN received from Attorney-1 copies of the final, signed confidential settlement agreement and side letter agreement.

    COHEN caused and made the payments described herein in order to influence the 2016 presidential election. In so doing, he coordinated with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. As a result of the payments solicited and made by COHEN, neither Woman-1 nor Woman-2 spoke to the press prior to the election."



    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...ORK,making an excessive campaign contribution.
     
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    This has nothing to do with Trump having won the election.
    DUH.

    Of course the prosecutor will say that this is only about whatever crime will be charged, and the principle of no one being above the law (even though Trump seems to have been above it, before he'd been the POTUS). As Trump is hardly an innocent man, it is likely that whatever the charges, they are appropriate to his behavior. All that said, I will acknowledge the possibility, that the DA's motivation, goes beyond the pursuit of justice, in the Stormy Daniels situation. But that would not come from being "butt hurt" over Trump's victory/Clinton's loss-- since you two don't seem able to recognize the obvious: if conviction on these charges, would facilitate his disqualification from holding future office, that could conceivably be an additional motive.

    Just to be clear, the reason why many on the Left (and even in the Center) are concerned about another Trump candidacy, revolves around his
    authoritarian bent. IOW, if you need to tie this to just a single event, it would not be his 2016 election, but his reaction to his 2020 loss (beginning by alleging fraud, even before the election), specifically to January 6th... You know, the thing that one or both of you, believe is another sham.

    So I guess it doesn't matter: regardless of what Trump does, anything that leads to official legal action, you all will not accept, as Trump being held to account for his actions: making him, de facto, forever above the law, in your eyes.
     
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    Remember this?
    I have to see what Akerman says now.

    'Cohen Plea Deal Makes Trump 'Unindicted Co-Conspirator,' Watergate Prosecutor Says'

    'The plea deal Tuesday involving President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen makes Trump an "unindicted co-conspirator," says Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor now in private practice.

    Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts in federal court, saying he made illegal campaign payments at the direction of "a candidate for federal office" — a candidate Cohen's lawyer says is Trump. The term "unindicted co-conspirator" was used by the Watergate grand jury to describe President Nixon's role in the scandal that ultimately cost him his presidency."

    cont:
    https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/08/22/cohen-plea-deal-trump-watergate-prosecutor
     
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    Well, that settles that.

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    He's an evil, soulless, lawless, amoral, immoral, conscienceless, and remorseless narcissist, psychopath, and criminal. That's all you need to know.


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    Adam Kinzinger #fella
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    An arrest of the former President is a sad day for our country. Assuming the evidence is what it seems, it’s the correct decision, nobody is above the law. But this should not be celebrated. It’s quite sad this man actually the front runner for the GOP
     
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    Trump beats Biden, Harris in latest 2024 election poll (thehill.com)
     
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    The Trumper posts won't age well------
     
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    Put me down for Contribute Other Amount

    What caught my eye from that mostly deranged EMAIL were the first 2 contribution amounts..... $24 and $47?? That's as nonsensical as the requestor...

    I'm sure whichever button you press, you are donating $250.... weekly....
     
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  8. Izzy

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    Thanks for that info.

    His greed for money is insatiable.

    You can tell that there's no going back now, he's totally out of his mind.

    He claims he walked away from a "very nice life" where the media NEVER said a "single mean thing" about him


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    George Conway


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    He's an evil, soulless, lawless, amoral, immoral, conscienceless, and remorseless narcissist, psychopath, and criminal. That's all you need to know.








     
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    All true, but before he decided to run for President, nobody really cared he was all those things.... I certainly didn't... In America, you are free to be all those things (except lawless and criminal)

    Then after he declared, only the people he was able to scam into voting for him didn't care....
     
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    As I said, read the court charging document. The money, the order to pay, all came from "Individual-1" and that was Trump. He took the money from donations made to his campaign. That's illegal. That's a felony.

    As for "the Georgia thing," there are at least three recorded conversations between Trump and GA elected officials where he is attempting to get them to change GA's election outcome. That's also illegal. That's also a felony.

    You have once again run out of credibility.
     
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    Why? Cohen was guilty, too. Sentenced and jailed. You don't really believe that he made such a payoff on his own, do you?
     
  12. Izzy

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    For Trump devotees he embodies all they wish they could be and say and since they live vicariously through him there's no going back.
     
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    I'm thinking irony here. Trump can walk, he just does not like to show it. But the point is for that certain poster, what I said was truth and the post got deleted for political reasons, not logical ones from the rules.
     
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    2 things...for the record

    1. Frances Watson was (is?) the Investigator for the Ga SOS office... I'm pretty sure that's not an elected position
    2. I don't belive there were any illegal asks in that mercifully short phone call.... Standard Trump BS, lying and rambling, but there was nothing in there I would call illegal, unlike the SOS call... unethical, sure, and maybe it helps demonstrate a pattern....

    Since the call was only 6 minutes, and it was clear from her tone she wanted it to end, I'm guessing he just didn't get to the ask....

    I don't think we've heard the Ralston call yet... at least I haven't.
     
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    Trump to Watson.

    “When the right answer comes out, you’ll be praised.”


    The Ralston call hasn't been made public.

    Trump wanted Ralston to call a special session to overturn the election results.
     
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    $47 I get - the next president #
     
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    George comes up with some gems.


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    OMG!
    I burst out laughing,still laughing


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    Yeah, neither of those examples are remotely enough by themselves... just typical Mango BS.... might go to a pattern of behavior, as I mentioned though...

    If Ralston had that power, that's asking him to do something he had the power to do... and we'd need to see the phrasing used..... see if the word overturn is used...

    Asking the SOS to find the exact number of votes he's behind plus 1, then casually mentioning failure to do what he wanted is a "criminal offense"? That's a problem
     
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    OK....fair enough.... sounds up his delusional alley

    24??

    IQ?
    Penis size (in mm)?
     
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    Maybe it's a Grover Cleveland reference as the only person to serve two non-consecutive terms (22/24)
     
  22. Egoboy

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    Here's a gem making the rounds in QAnon land.....

    The Patriot Moat!!.... Another 3rd century solution to a 21st century situation.... There might be a run on catapults at REI...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/officials-prep-protests-maga-sycophants-000731276.html

    I LOL at Alex Jones staying far away from this one.... he LITERALLY cannot afford to get involved...
     
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    That's a record that shan't be matched any time soon....

    Maybe whoever put that EMAIL together is just a fan of Jack Bauer? Or LeMans....

    Take your pick....

    https://www.thefactsite.com/number-twenty-four-facts/
     
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    Simply amazing...lol
     
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    If the money came from Trump's campaign coffers, then it wasn't a donation by Cohen.

    Why can't you understand that?
     
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